Way of the Warrior - Way of the Samurai

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by mrbeast

Cool vids, Happy Times

How about some European martial arts?

Check this IMHO very cool video on You Tube. Bear in mind this is not stage combat, its interpretations of genuine European medieval combat technique (performed at half speed for saftey and so you can see whats going on) taken from real manuscripts dating to the 14th and 15th century.

http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj4Ng6DBfrg

I like that stuff, especially when they handle the sword not only via the grip, but holding the blade itself too, and using it more like a combat stick, or a spear. I reminds me of a technique that I learned too, and which was meant to enable using a katana even in the narrowest spaces like a lift cabin, that prohibit the ordinary fighting styles. Prefered of course is wide space, especially for a katana that is designed to hack and chop, not so much to stab and slice. but you CAN very effectively fight with such a long weapon in limited space.

Okay, they had not lift cabins in Japan back then, but you get the idea...

[Yahoshua]

Originally Posted by Rhodes

Isn't karate also (modern) unarmed combat form?

And Skybird when You experimented fencing, the grip of the sword (sword/saber/foil) was strait or like the modern ones that the grip is like a pistol grip?

Are you talking about how to properly grip the sword? Or are you talking about the tang/hilt of the sword itself?

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Yahoshua

Are you talking about how to properly grip the sword? Or are you talking about the tang/hilt of the sword itself?

He does not talk about a sword or katana, but what in German is called a "Degen" (rapier? épée?) as it is used in sports fencing. "Florett" (foil?) and "Säbel" (sabre) have normal grips in sports fencing, but foils can have normal grips, or things that remind of a pistol grip. Difference between the three sports weapons is that rules allow them to score by touching different target areas of the opponent's body.

[mrbeast]

Originally Posted by Skybird

I like that stuff, especially when they handle the sword not only via the grip, but holding the blade itself too, and using it more like a combat stick, or a spear. I reminds me of a technique that I learned too, and which was meant to enable using a katana even in the narrowest spaces like a lift cabin, that prohibit the ordinary fighting styles. Prefered of course is wide space, especially for a katana that is designed to hack and chop, not so much to stab and slice. but you CAN very effectively fight with such a long weapon in limited space.

Okay, they had not lift cabins in Japan back then, but you get the idea...

Thats a technique called 'half-swording'. You grasp the blunt portion of the blade near the guard to give greater power to a thrust or better control.

This site here is very good, has lots of info on swords and associated techniques

http://www.myarmoury.com/home.html

[Rhodes]

Originally Posted by Skybird

He does not talk about a sword or katana, but what in German is called a "Degen" (rapier? épée?) as it is used in sports fencing. "Florett" (foil?) and "Säbel" (sabre) have normal grips in sports fencing, but foils can have normal grips, or things that remind of a pistol grip. Difference between the three sports weapons is that rules allow them to score by touching different target areas of the opponent's body.

Yes, I was talking about the "weapons" use in (modern) fencing today. The questions was post because I did some fencing because my father used practice and teach when was young. And the weapons that we used (and still have), from 20 years ago have a strait grip, and the ones that are use know in competition have a pistol grip, that enables some moviments more fast if using a strait grip. My father always said that the 2 or 3 last fingers was need to do diffrents moves and know with the modern grips, one can do that more easy and fast.

Never hold a rapier or what we can call the medieval swords( but liked to) but katanas yes and also did some kendo, since my father need some adversary to train, even if I was only doing some poor stuff ( and since my opponent was my father, he could hit me any time and I couldn't argue...:rotfl.

Of oriental martial arts, I pratice karate, but even if I wanted to practice medieval sword fight, kenjutsu, kendo, ai-do, even fencing I need to go out my home city. And even in major cities here, the first I said, only in the capital.

Never figured out how that thing fires, though.

Ehehehe