18 shot at Northern Illinois University

[Letum]

So unorigional you wonder if they are trying to be post-ironic.

A tradgedy, but not a shocking one anymore.
As I said last time, there is no reason to think this won't happen again next week and
every reason to belive it will happen again soon.

[elite_hunter_sh3]

if the 2nd ammendment was respected and the damn government wasnt so PC about it, there would have been a student with a concealed and carry permit and caryying a concealed handgun, who then most likely would have saved those lives by placeing a few well placed shots to the shooters chest.. but nooooooo they have to outright ban guns fro muniversity campuses.. its like, your hunting deer, you might as well make them blind and deaf...

fyi there hasnt been a single recording of a crime commited by person with a Concealed and carry permit :hmm:

[mrbeast]

Originally Posted by elite_hunter_sh3

if the 2nd ammendment was respected and the damn government wasnt so PC about it, there would have been a student with a concealed and carry permit and caryying a concealed handgun, who then most likely would have saved those lives by placeing a few well placed shots to the shooters chest.. but nooooooo they have to outright ban guns fro muniversity campuses.. its like, your hunting deer, you might as well make them blind and deaf...

fyi there hasnt been a single recording of a crime commited by person with a Concealed and carry permit :hmm:

Yeah just like in the movies eh?!

[sonar732]

Originally Posted by elite_hunter_sh3

if the 2nd ammendment was respected and the damn government wasnt so PC about it, there would have been a student with a concealed and carry permit and caryying a concealed handgun, who then most likely would have saved those lives by placeing a few well placed shots to the shooters chest.. but nooooooo they have to outright ban guns fro muniversity campuses.. its like, your hunting deer, you might as well make them blind and deaf...

fyi there hasnt been a single recording of a crime commited by person with a Concealed and carry permit :hmm:

The guns being banned from the university didn't stop the shooter from doing it. Even if someone had a weapon in one of those classes, he still would've shot at least 5 of them before he met his demise.

Don't get me wrong...I'm for the 2nd!

We'll find out more as the news will be interviewing their own experts as to why he carried a shot gun to the campus.

[elite_hunter_sh3]

rather 5 then 18 then again even 1 is bad, id rather see students armed going to school.. or at least security with assault rifles or some decent weapons rather then some crappy baton and a flashlight... plus if everyone knew guns are allowed on campus who has the balls to try to kill armed students in a university???

[mrbeast]

Originally Posted by elite_hunter_sh3

rather 5 then 18 then again even 1 is bad, id rather see students armed going to school.. or at least security with assault rifles or some decent weapons rather then some crappy baton and a flashlight... plus if everyone knew guns are allowed on campus who has the balls to try to kill armed students in a university???

Why stop there, give everyone a gun, and make it compulsory to carry it locked and loaded?

[elite_hunter_sh3]

if a student wants to carry a gun legally witha CCP, then let him, if they dont want to then they dont want to... if a student has a criminal record then no he shouldnt be allowed.. same goes for teachers and administration. criminal record = no CCP, if they are clean they can chose wether or not they want to carry a concealed weapon.. now go back to England if you dont want guns...

edit: just checked, you are in the UK... that mostly explains your anti gun feelings..

[mrbeast]

Originally Posted by elite_hunter_sh3

if a student wants to carry a gun legally witha CCP, then let him, if they dont want to then they dont want to... if a student has a criminal record then no he shouldnt be allowed.. same goes for teachers and administration. criminal record = no CCP, if they are clean they can chose wether or not they want to carry a concealed weapon.. now go back to England if you dont want guns...

I have to say 18 students shot dead sounds like a pretty darn good reason not to leave England.

I just find it extraordinary that your solution to spree killings is more guns so students can have some sort of wild west shoot out!

[Letum]

Originally Posted by elite_hunter_sh3

rather 5 then 18 then again even 1 is bad, id rather see students armed going to school.. or at least security with assault rifles or some decent weapons rather then some crappy baton and a flashlight... plus if everyone knew guns are allowed on campus who has the balls to try to kill armed students in a university???

In England we don't have much of a problem with guns in schools, but we do have a
problem with knives in schools.

Perhaps we should have more students and teachers carrying knives or at least security
with machetties rather than some crappy whistle and telephone.... plus if everyone
knew knives where allowed in the university who has the balls to try and stab
a armed student in a university???

If we give students knives and let them know that it is ok to have one then
stabbings are bound to decrease.

Everyone would feel a lot safer if they knew that all the students in the class room
are ready to jump out with a 4" blade at a moments notice.



....errr....right?