Most bizarre ship in GWX...

seafarer · 02-07-08, 11:39 AM

The U-flak boats were converted VIIC's. They were not at all very successful, as the Allied planes would fly and attack in groups, and easily overwhelm their relatively minor (despite the appearance) firepower. In fact, according to www.uboat.net, the four U-flak boats only actually shot down 2 aircraft.

Konovalov · 02-07-08, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by seafarer

The U-flak boats were converted VIIC's. They were not at all very successful, as the Allied planes would fly and attack in groups, and easily overwhelm their relatively minor (despite the appearance) firepower. In fact, according to www.boat.net, the four U-flak boats only actually shot down 2 aircraft.

Yep.

Didn't they re-convert them from U-flak boats having discovered what a waste of time and resources they were?

Hanomag · 02-07-08, 11:57 AM

GASP!!

TomcatMVD · 02-07-08, 12:43 PM

U-flak, turned out to be a useless experiment didn´t it?

seafarer · 02-07-08, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TomcatMVD

U-flak, turned out to be a useless experiment didn´t it?

Not only were the U-flak boats, but the whole idea of ordering u-boats to cross the Bay of Biscay on the surface and in groups was horribly flawed. Relying on their perceived AA capabilities was a huge mistake, as the allied Beaufighters and other aircraft usually patrolled and attacked in groups of 3 or more aircraft. And the aircraft often had support from surface units that they could then vector onto the surfaced boats.

The U-flak U-441 was attacked by several Beaufighters on her second patrol, and ended up with several men and most of the officers killed or wounded. In fact, while U-441 did shoot down 2 allied planes, she was severly damaged by aircraft on each of her first 3 patrols.

Jimbuna · 02-08-08, 06:36 AM

http://uboat.net/types/u-flak.htm

seafarer · 02-08-08, 08:12 AM

Also have a look at this map - http://uboat.net/maps/biscay.htm

This was the U-flak's operational area

Jimbuna · 02-07-08, 12:49 PM

U-621

02-07-08, 11:39 AM	#1
seafarer Commodore Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 622 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The U-flak boats were converted VIIC's. They were not at all very successful, as the Allied planes would fly and attack in groups, and easily overwhelm their relatively minor (despite the appearance) firepower. In fact, according to www.uboat.net, the four U-flak boats only actually shot down 2 aircraft. __________________ My Father's ship, HMCS Waskesiu (K330), sank U257 on 02/24/1944 running SHIII-1.4 with GWX2.1 and SHIV-1.5 with TMO/RSRDC/PE3.3 under MS Vista Home Premium 32-bit SP1 ACER AMD Athlon 64x2 4800+, 4GB DDR2 RAM, 400GB SATA HD Antec TruePower Trio 650watt PSU BFG GeForce 8800GT/OC 512MB VRAM, Samsung 216BW widescreen (1680x1050) LCD Last edited by seafarer; 02-07-08 at 12:14 PM.

02-07-08, 11:57 AM	#3
Hanomag Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: LI NY Posts: 964 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	GASP!! __________________ "Only if I can save first..."

02-07-08, 12:43 PM	#4
TomcatMVD Weps Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: MVD, UY Posts: 359 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	U-flak, turned out to be a useless experiment didn´t it? __________________

02-08-08, 06:36 AM	#6
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,525 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	http://uboat.net/types/u-flak.htm __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

02-08-08, 08:12 AM	#7
seafarer Commodore Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 622 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Also have a look at this map - http://uboat.net/maps/biscay.htm This was the U-flak's operational area __________________ My Father's ship, HMCS Waskesiu (K330), sank U257 on 02/24/1944 running SHIII-1.4 with GWX2.1 and SHIV-1.5 with TMO/RSRDC/PE3.3 under MS Vista Home Premium 32-bit SP1 ACER AMD Athlon 64x2 4800+, 4GB DDR2 RAM, 400GB SATA HD Antec TruePower Trio 650watt PSU BFG GeForce 8800GT/OC 512MB VRAM, Samsung 216BW widescreen (1680x1050) LCD

02-07-08, 12:49 PM	#8
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,525 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	U-621 __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!