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Old 02-06-08, 07:41 PM   #1
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A trailer for Peter Jackson's Crossing the Line also appears as a Related Video on the same link.

It looks pretty off the hook.
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Old 02-06-08, 09:38 PM   #2
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Camels ftw!
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Old 02-06-08, 10:26 PM   #3
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Old 02-07-08, 07:39 AM   #4
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I'd love it if these kind of movies became a smash hit, 'cause then maybe the gaming industry would hook up. WWI Dogfighting was truly something of another world, and the best game that has tried to handle it is the Over Flanders Fields mod (freeware that is), which is based on Microsoft Combat Flight Simulator 3. Now I want something real though!
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Old 02-07-08, 08:05 AM   #5
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Honestly, these clips look as if like they're from flyboys 2. The action looks way overdone, and I get the impression they're going with am annoying modern edge to get the young audience. I hope I'm wrong
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Old 02-07-08, 08:43 AM   #6
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I'd love it if these kind of movies became a smash hit, 'cause then maybe the gaming industry would hook up. WWI Dogfighting was truly something of another world, and the best game that has tried to handle it is the Over Flanders Fields mod (freeware that is), which is based on Microsoft Combat Flight Simulator 3. Now I want something real though!
True, but the movies would have to be like Das Boot. Or otherwise we'd have gaming industry make tons of arcade shooters that just happens happen between aircraft.

As for the movie itself, it looks awfully fast paced. In a bad way that is. Some of the scenes look like the planes are going 450km/h. Also, wtf was that scene where the pilot shot the zeppelin with a flare gun? Rrrrright...
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Old 02-07-08, 08:59 AM   #7
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And there I was, wondering about what mighty specs a PC would need to run this sim...
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Old 02-07-08, 09:07 AM   #8
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And there I was, wondering about what mighty specs a PC would need to run this sim...
I was hoping to see a Snoopy-Red Barron music video. :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
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Old 02-07-08, 05:04 PM   #9
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As for the movie itself, it looks awfully fast paced. In a bad way that is. Some of the scenes look like the planes are going 450km/h. Also, wtf was that scene where the pilot shot the zeppelin with a flare gun? Rrrrright...
Remember that planes accelerate when going in dives. Also, it's a balloon, not a zeppelin, and flare guns were occasionally used against them when incendiary ammunition was low.

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Underpowered and dangerous to fly.
The DR.1 was actually a much more nimble aircraft than any available at the time (better than the Camel). Although slow, it was a great dogfighter to experienced pilots, such as Werner Voss' last battle. Voss, against 5 British aces from No. 56 Squadron, single handedly engaged every one of them, putting rounds into every plane. Unfortunately, he made one fatal flying error that cost him the battle: he flew head on into the fire of Arthur Rhys Davids. The rounds apparently wounded Voss, and he either died in the cockpit or lost consciousness, for the Fokker went into a steep dive and made no attempt to pull up thereafter, smashing itself into a thousand fragments on the ground below.

In the case of Heinrich Gontermann, however, he was just a stupid buck trying to impress his Jasta by doing dangerous loops and dives. Thus, the upper wing broke away, and he smashed into the Earth, killing him instantly.

The DR.1 wasn't a bad plane. When given to a competent and skilled pilot, it could decide the very outcome of a battle. Aces such as Voss, the Richthofen brothers (Manfred and Lothar), Wolff, and Lowenhardt knew how to handle the plane adequately, and in the time that they did use them, it was to great success. Do note, however, that Lowenhardt was the only one who did not die in a DR.1 in combat. He was killed August 10, 1918 when he collided with Leutnant Alfred Wenz of his Jasta. He attempted to bail, and although he did his best, his parachute failed and he plunged to his death from 12,000-12,500 feet.

The D.VII, though, was definitely the best fighter of the war on any front, however; although one must remember that even the D.VII was not able to match the DR.1's amazing climbing abilities (hence the nickname "elevator"). The WORST plane of the war, however, I'd say was the fragile and underarmed Halberstadt. With only one Spandau machine gun and a very slow speed, the plane was vulnerable to enemy attack and was prone to break to pieces whilst going down.
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Old 02-07-08, 08:59 AM   #10
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Camels ftw!
Fokker DR.1.
Underpowered and dangerous to fly.

Now the Dr.7 was the Fokker to have on the western front imo.
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Old 02-07-08, 10:37 AM   #11
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Camels ftw!
Fokker DR.1.
Underpowered and dangerous to fly.

Now the Dr.7 was the Fokker to have on the western front imo.
Fokker D-VII (D7) did not go into combat production until after Manfred's death.

The DR 1 was actually a fairly (relatively) nimble aircraft that could out manouver most other aircraft.. but it was slow.

Balloon busting was extremely dangerous because of the concentration of antiaircraft guns positioned around them.. the chances of taking one out with a flare gun is pretty d*mn low.. and if the pilot was not concentrating on dodging the AA fire, taking the time to load and fire a flare pistol at the balloon would prolly (I know.. probably.. easier to spell prolly :p ) be his last act.

At least the clips show some Albatross DIIIs in action (Richtoffen made 56 of his 80 confirmed kills in an Albaross DIII) ... unlike Flyboys where you'd think the Germans only flew DR 1s.
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Old 02-07-08, 11:24 AM   #12
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http://http://www.redbaron-themovie.com/index_en.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Red_Baron_(film)

I might see an Euro release only but who knows, maybe it will be screened in those indie type move theaters as well, if not, the dvd release will surely come to the US coast.
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Old 02-07-08, 03:33 PM   #13
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Crap. Seen better IL-2 movies.

Oh the Red Baron got his kills more from stalking than dogfighting.
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Old 02-07-08, 05:05 PM   #14
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I don't like the flying action at all, half of the fun with playing the old Red Baron game was its slow pace. You got an enemy on your tail, but you cannot just du anything to shake him ,I dont know how many times I ruined my plane by flying out of its structural limit.. Actions should be slow paced and with suspence, not like this And way to many planes I think as well.
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Old 02-07-08, 11:27 AM   #15
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Camels ftw!
Fokker DR.1.
I remember when I shot one of those down in Red Baron 3D. My mum came in and said "Did you get one?" I said "Yeah, I just shot a Fokker."

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