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View Poll Results: Who will be the next President of the United States?
Joe Biden 1 1.30%
Hillary Clinton 25 32.47%
John Edwards 3 3.90%
Rudy Giuliani 6 7.79%
Mike Huckabee 7 9.09%
John McCain 5 6.49%
Barack Obama 13 16.88%
Ron Paul 5 6.49%
Bill Richardson 1 1.30%
Mitt Romney 3 3.90%
Fred Thompson 8 10.39%
Pat Buchanan 0 0%
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Old 01-31-08, 07:19 PM   #1
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Well, at least I am sure that all this turns into YOUR debating tactic now if I would accept to play it by your rules - so I refuse to continue it from here. Deal with the content of the essay, or don't. After all it is an American author asking some reasonable questions about his home nation. Me - I just linked it, which can be taken as an indicator that I somewhat agree with the author's concerns. If you can't see any reason in why somebody asks questions about the fact that just two rich and influential families having been in power for almost three decades now, and other family clans and cliques influencing and controlling politics over deacdes and even half a century, you probably never see much reason to ask questions in your life anyway.
I dealt with the "content of the essay", twice. You of course attempted to radicalize my answers like you always do with anyone who questions your self proclaimed expertise in all things.
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Old 02-01-08, 05:22 AM   #2
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I dealt with the "content of the essay", twice.
Damn - I knew I missed something.
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You of course attempted to radicalize my answers like you always do with anyone who questions your self proclaimed expertise in all things.
Of course! Forgive that I dared to touch your holy grail again! That is very radicalizing indeed...

BTW, what of my self proclaimed expertise was it again that the author used to write his article?
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I dealt with the "content of the essay", twice.
Damn - I knew I missed something.
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You of course attempted to radicalize my answers like you always do with anyone who questions your self proclaimed expertise in all things.
Of course! Forgive that I dared to touch your holy grail again! That is very radicalizing indeed...

BTW, what of my self proclaimed expertise was it again that the author used to write his article?
The question really should be when are you NOT proclaiming your expertise on just about any subject Skybird? Germany must be such a wonderful place! I mean even their warehouse workers see things so much more clearly than heads of state, generals and the best scientific minds on the planet! If you guys decide to try to take over the world the rest of us are doomed!

Oh wait...
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Old 02-01-08, 08:59 AM   #4
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Poor August - sees a Skybird underneath his bed, around every corner, and in the trees he walks under (just waiting to jump right onto poor August's back).

Uh, and thank you so much for once again minimizing myself to "just" being a warehouse worker, ignoring all the other things i have done, too, and ignoring my voluntary jobs again. It is always a pleasure to see you using tricks like this. But you see, I have bad news for you - this autumn I'll quit in the warehouse, and this late Spring I will start (again) as "freelance" psychologist and therapist in the outbound service of a nearby hospital, doing once again voluntary work that I can afford to do unpayed, because several people wholeheartly asked me to start doing it again, which I take as a compliment. Then I will be an (unpayed) voluntary specialist (again), and no warehouse part-time-jobber anymore, and I will be that becasue I can afford it and want to do some social service again - say, what will you try to use for making mockery of me, then? Or are you just envy that I have collected experience in more different fields of work and areas of life, than you yourself, maybe, and that I have come around in the world a bit? :hmm:
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Hey wow...come back to topic gents.

My daughter and I got a kick when they asked McCain's mom about what she thought the Republican conservatives will have to do about they're choices....lmao.

She is right ...they will have no choice to suck it up and accept him.

McCain will be president mark these words.

It is like chess...look down the road and see the choices...the outcome is already a done deal.

There is no other good choice and McCain is not just a default choice but will make a hell of a president.
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McCain, trying to bite open the iron curtain.
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There is no other good choice and McCain is not just a default choice but will make a hell of a president.
I do worry about his temper but I think he'd make a better president than Obama and definitely Clinton. McCain can beat Clinton too though i'm not so sure about Obama.
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There is no other good choice and McCain is not just a default choice but will make a hell of a president.
Is he the same McCain who mixed up Russia's Putin with our glorious chancellor Merkel?

If yes, then then i am starting to understand what "hell of a president" really means ...

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Is he the same McCain who mixed up Russia's Putin with our glorious chancellor Merkel?
Ya gotta admit they do look the same...
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Is he the same McCain who mixed up Russia's Putin with our glorious chancellor Merkel?
Really happened...? Totally missed the story over here.
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Poor August - sees a Skybird underneath his bed, around every corner, and in the trees he walks under (just waiting to jump right onto poor August's back).

Uh, and thank you so much for once again minimizing myself to "just" being a warehouse worker, ignoring all the other things i have done, too, and ignoring my voluntary jobs again. It is always a pleasure to see you using tricks like this. But you see, I have bad news for you - this autumn I'll quit in the warehouse, and this late Spring I will start (again) as "freelance" psychologist and therapist in the outbound service of a nearby hospital, doing once again voluntary work that I can afford to do unpayed, because several people wholeheartly asked me to start doing it again, which I take as a compliment. Then I will be an (unpayed) voluntary specialist (again), and no warehouse part-time-jobber anymore, and I will be that becasue I can afford it and want to do some social service again - say, what will you try to use for making mockery of me, then?
Good for you Skybird!

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Or are you just envy that I have collected experience in more different fields of work and areas of life, than you yourself, maybe, and that I have come around in the world a bit? :hmm:
Hmm, envy? Lets compare backrounds. I've been a professional soldier, tradesman in the high tech field and am now a professional teacher. I also do some tree farming on the side and eventually plan to run a bed and breakfast for hunters and fishermen when i retire from teaching. I've lived in two countries and visited over a dozen more around the world from the far east to Europe. I'm not saying your experiences are any less valid or extensive than mine but envy is not a word i'd use to describe such a comparison.
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Good for you Skybird!
Oh please - you are not in a position to judge my life and it's whys and hows - not when I am working in a warehouse, and not when working as a specialist, not when working in the ME, not when working as a martail arts trainer, or a meditation teacher, and not when working in a logistics enterprise, or as schoolboy distributing newspaper - and not when not working at all. Never forget that my life is like it is not becasue of mistakes and error, but because of my intentional decisions which to make I could afford. I could even not work anything at all, if I would wish that. That is more freedom and independence than I see in the lives of most people today. And that is why I give back, and have given back in the past, for free.

So, you must not tell me what is good for me - according to your set of rules for life.

So the question remains - what will you use in the near future to make mockery about my background, then, once I am not jobbing in a warehouse anymore? It has become a habit of yours to do like that.

Think about it in silence, please - I cannot say that I'm really interested in it. Having to face such a strike when it comes, already is annoying enough.
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Oh please - you are not in a position to judge my life and it's whys and hows - not when I am working in a warehouse, and not when working as a specialist, not when working in the ME, not when working as a martail arts trainer, or a meditation teacher, and not when working in a logistics enterprise, or as schoolboy distributing newspaper - and not when not working at all. Never forget that my life is like it is not becasue of mistakes and error, but because of my intentional decisions which to make I could afford. I could even not work anything at all, if I would wish that. That is more freedom and independence than I see in the lives of most people today. And that is why I give back, and have given back in the past, for free.

So, you must not tell me what is good for me - according to your set of rules for life.
Good for you Skybird!

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So the question remains - what will you use in the near future to make mockery about my background, then, once I am not jobbing in a warehouse anymore? It has become a habit of yours to do like that.

Think about it in silence, please - I cannot say that I'm really interested in it. Having to face such a strike when it comes, already is annoying enough.
Habit? I've mentioned it exactly twice and the first time was just to ask you if you were serious when you mentioned it. That's not the definition of habit in my dictionary. Maybe yours is different.

Now you claim it's voluntary and i have no reason do doubt your word but even you have to admit that there aren't too many certified Psychologists working in warehouses in German or anywhere else. All I can say is "good luck" to you...
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If you go back, I said a few months or so ago McCain would be the next President. I still stand by that prediction.

Yeah, but you didn't say it in the poll, and that's what counts


And now, we are down to a few Nostrodamusses (sp):

Hillary Clinton
AVGWarhawk, bybyx, Carotio, Chock, CptJoker, Delareon, DR_Woody, Fallen, fatty, GT182, Herr_Pete, iratecabbie, jimbuna, Johann Vilthomsen, JSLTIGER, Konovalov, Kptlt. Hellmut Neuerburg, Lurchi, mr chris, NEON DEON, RamRod, shevlin, TarJak, Tchocky, XabbaRus

Mike Huckabee
bookworm_020, danurve, geetrue, Kapitan_Phillips, Sixpack, The WosMan, VonHammer

John McCain
AG124, donut, Iceman, MothBalls, wetgoat

Barack Obama
badhat17, Biggles, Blacklight, Bort, DAB, Fish, GunnerGreg, headcase, Lagger123987, Peto, RickC Sniper, Stealth Hunter, Zepheron



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My pick for vice president is Dr. Condoleezza Rice ...
I would be all over that.
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all those candidates just got owned... funny how Ron Paul is still running , yet Romney is out... first there were 12.. then there is 3..
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