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SUBMAN1 · 01-29-08, 04:51 PM

I find all these arguments interesting, but I have to disagree with the notion that the US of A is not based on CHristian foundations. It is to be found everywhere and in every portion of the US as a whole, from your courtrooms (swear on a bible), to the swearing in of your presidents, to even on your dollar bill (In god we trust)! How far do you want to take this?

I don't agree with any of the athiest posts that have been presented here since they hold little value once you open your eyes and see it all around you. Next we will analyze the argument to the Constitution as it was being written.

Also, though I agree with the seperation of Church and State, contrary to popular belief - it is no where to be found in the first amendment.

(rehash city)

What you have here is a case of the athiest left trying to re-write US history. Good luck people.

-S

Tchocky · 01-29-08, 04:52 PM

Treaty of Tripoli may disagree with you there.

SUBMAN1 · 01-29-08, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Treaty of Tripoli may disagree with you there.

Are you refering to the Barlow Translation of the treaty?

-S

Tchocky · 01-29-08, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Treaty of Tripoli may disagree with you there.

Are you refering to the Barlow Translation of the treaty?

-S

Nah, just a memory. Hence the "may"

SUBMAN1 · 01-29-08, 05:16 PM

Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness to light and light to darkness, and who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.

Sounds about accurate for most of what I am seeing.

As for the treaty - Article 11 does not exist by the way, except by mystery.

-S

01-29-08, 05:29 PM

*sigh* how does a thread about Scientology getting pwned get turned into the usual blah blah blah?
Edit- Maybe there should be a seperate politics and Religion forum so the usual suspects can go and yell and scream at each other out of the way and not clutter up the forums with their same s*** different day thing.

SUBMAN1 · 01-29-08, 05:33 PM

You are right. I am partly to blame. I will cease and create a new thread properly labled in time so that it can be properly avoided by those that don't want to engage in the discussion.

However, my day is drawing near so its almost sub-simming time for me, so this new thread will be a low priority until later!

-S

mrbeast · 01-29-08, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

I find all these arguments interesting, but I have to disagree with the notion that the US of A is not based on CHristian foundations. It is to be found everywhere and in every portion of the US as a whole, from your courtrooms (swear on a bible), to the swearing in of your presidents, to even on your dollar bill (In god we trust)! How far do you want to take this?

I don't agree with any of the athiest posts that have been presented here since they hold little value once you open your eyes and see it all around you. Next we will analyze the argument to the Constitution as it was being written.

Also, though I agree with the seperation of Church and State, contrary to popular belief - it is no where to be found in the first amendment.

(rehash city)

What you have here is a case of the athiest left trying to re-write US history. Good luck people.

-S

Its there in the material posted by Skybird and Sailor Steve. How can you say that it holds little value? Because you assume that their authors are...gasp....atheists? Maybe its time you opened your eyes and read.

Its already been stated previously that the separation of church and state are not codified in the 1st amandment.

Simply adding up all the christian references you can find in US society is not evidence that the US is founded on christian values. Superficially it might seem sound logic but its not, its wonky thinking. For example 'in god we trust' was a later christian revisionist replacement for "E Pluribus Unum". Also in the US there is a layer of State law that may well be biased towards christianity.

You are forgetting that the United States of America did not evolve organically in the same way a country like Britain or France or Spain did, it was a concept thought up by a group of men; A group of men who were at best luke warn about christianity.

This is not an atheist-leftist attempt to re-write history but, as usual, an attempt to point out the facts after conservative-theists have finnished scribbling their prefered version of history over the top of them.

SUBMAN1 · 01-29-08, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrbeast

Its there in the material posted by Skybird and Sailor Steve. How can you say that it holds little value? Because you assume that their authors are...gasp....atheists? Maybe its time you opened your eyes and read.

Its already been stated previously that the separation of church and state are not codified in the 1st amandment.

Simply adding up all the christian references you can find in US society is not evidence that the US is founded on christian values. Superficially it might seem sound logic but its not, its wonky thinking. For example 'in god we trust' was a later christian revisionist replacement for "E Pluribus Unum". Also in the US there is a layer of State law that may well be biased towards christianity.

You are forgetting that the United States of America did not evolve organically in the same way a country like Britain or France or Spain did, it was a concept thought up by a group of men; A group of men who were at best luke warn about christianity.

This is not an atheist-leftist attempt to re-write history but, as usual, an attempt to point out the facts after conservative-theists have finnished scribbling their prefered version of history over the top of them.

Not an appropriate thread for this, but you and they are wrong. Study July 4th, 1776. Continental Congress addresses god specifically.

There will be a new thread on the subject. Please don't hijack this one any longer.

-S

Oberon · 01-30-08, 04:37 PM

Just came across this:

http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Project_Chanology

CAUTION: Contains elements of 4chan. Viewer discretion advised.

bookworm_020 · 01-30-08, 09:03 PM

Tom Cruise may talk the talk, but his wallet seems to have been left behind!

http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegrap...001026,00.html

Where is Homer Simpson when you need him most!

CCIP · 01-30-08, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oberon

CAUTION: Contains elements of 4chan. Viewer discretion advised.

lolwut?

just kidding

Jimbuna · 01-31-08, 06:10 PM

LMAO

Me too

01-29-08, 04:51 PM	#46
SUBMAN1 Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11,866 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I find all these arguments interesting, but I have to disagree with the notion that the US of A is not based on CHristian foundations. It is to be found everywhere and in every portion of the US as a whole, from your courtrooms (swear on a bible), to the swearing in of your presidents, to even on your dollar bill (In god we trust)! How far do you want to take this? I don't agree with any of the athiest posts that have been presented here since they hold little value once you open your eyes and see it all around you. Next we will analyze the argument to the Constitution as it was being written. Also, though I agree with the seperation of Church and State, contrary to popular belief - it is no where to be found in the first amendment. (rehash city) What you have here is a case of the athiest left trying to re-write US history. Good luck people. -S __________________

01-29-08, 04:52 PM	#47
Tchocky Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,874 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Treaty of Tripoli may disagree with you there. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

01-29-08, 05:16 PM	#50
SUBMAN1 Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11,866 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness to light and light to darkness, and who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter. Sounds about accurate for most of what I am seeing. As for the treaty - Article 11 does not exist by the way, except by mystery. -S __________________

01-29-08, 05:33 PM	#52
SUBMAN1 Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11,866 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	You are right. I am partly to blame. I will cease and create a new thread properly labled in time so that it can be properly avoided by those that don't want to engage in the discussion. However, my day is drawing near so its almost sub-simming time for me, so this new thread will be a low priority until later! -S __________________

01-30-08, 09:03 PM	#56
bookworm_020 Navy Seal Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sinking ships off the Australian coast Posts: 5,966 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Tom Cruise may talk the talk, but his wallet seems to have been left behind! http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegrap...001026,00.html Where is Homer Simpson when you need him most! __________________ "There is always one person in any organization who knows whats going on, That person must be fired"

01-29-08, 05:29 PM	#51
darius359au Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	sigh how does a thread about Scientology getting pwned get turned into the usual blah blah blah? Edit- Maybe there should be a seperate politics and Religion forum so the usual suspects can go and yell and scream at each other out of the way and not clutter up the forums with their same s*** different day thing.

01-30-08, 04:37 PM	#55
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Just came across this: http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Project_Chanology CAUTION: Contains elements of 4chan. Viewer discretion advised.

01-31-08, 06:10 PM	#58
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,818 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	LMAO Me too __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!