[REQ] Navigator at his post when not at GQ. - Page 2

jdkbph · 01-15-08, 10:22 AM

Don't have time to review this right now, but I forgot to mention that this MUST be done while in port. Could that be the problem?

JD

EDIT:

Looks OK to me. Again, make sure you're in port (ie, the game loads directly to the office) when you apply this change.

One other thing I forgot to mention... not terribly critical, but helps to clean up any rough edges. The 3 navigators I added are just place holders. Functional, but I don't think you want them to be regular crew. Their names, for instance, are Nav One, Nav Two and Nav Three. So as soon as you get into the office, click the crew picture on the desk to verify that the new positions and crewmen are present, then immediately retire those three place holder navigators and back fill with junior officers.

JD

jdkbph · 01-15-08, 12:55 PM

Oh, and if anyone else is successful with this, please let me know so I can post it properly with a TEC prefix.

Thanks.

JD

M. Sarsfield · 01-15-08, 01:34 PM

This is nice. I'd like to see more people crammed into the conning tower at battle stations. How difficult would it be to do that?

Ducimus · 01-15-08, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M. Sarsfield

This is nice. I'd like to see more people crammed into the conning tower at battle stations. How difficult would it be to do that?

Theres only 3 character nodes in the conning tower. Id like to place a 4th one at the helm controls in the CT, but no node exists, and its kind of silly having somone manning the TDC 24/7.

M. Sarsfield · 01-15-08, 03:21 PM

Oh. I thought they were talking about adding extra nodes.

Quagmire · 01-15-08, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdkbph

Don't have time to review this right now, but I forgot to mention that this MUST be done while in port. Could that be the problem?

Looks OK to me. Again, make sure you're in port (ie, the game loads directly to the office) when you apply this change.

Yup. You are right. I am patrolling off Okinawa right now. I shall return to port soon and I will be sure to try again.

When I do return to port is best to edit the Data\Submarine\NSS_Gato\*.upc file?
.

jdkbph · 01-15-08, 10:47 PM

I think if you're mid career, you have to edit the ActiveUserPlayerUnits.upc save game file. At least I know that works. I think the NSS_Gato.upc will only have an effect if you mod it then start a new career. I think. I'm not really too clear on exactly how and when these templates are being used.

JD

LukeFF · 01-16-08, 02:52 AM

I know how this can be done, but you pretty much have to sacrifice one of the other slots in the control room for this to work. My first thought was to axe the dive planesman and move his slot to the navigator's table, but then there would be no one at the dive planes when the boat submerges.

This is what we have to work with:

The Diving Officer (the one standing behind the helmsman): not really an option, as he's kind of important.
The helmsman: again, a needed position
Planesman: as I mentioned above.
The diving control man: again, not needed on the surface, but he needs to be there when the boat submerges.

The way I see it, there's no real way to do this, unless some way can be found to add crew slots to the command room, which I just don't see happening right now.

jdkbph · 01-16-08, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LukeFF

I know how this can be done, but you pretty much have to sacrifice one of the other slots in the control room for this to work.

Actually no, it does work. The thing is we're not creating any new "nodes", but utilizing an existing node that currently is only active or "filled" at battlestations. I added 3 new crewmen to the command room section (upping the total from 12 to 15) and assigned them to that existing navigation station node during the normal 1st, 2nd and 3rd watch.

Try it. My example is for the Gato, although it may work with no, or perhaps just minor editing for the Balao and maybe some of the other fleet boats. But in any case you can see what I did and apply the same technique to any of the boats.

JD

matzeesn · 01-16-08, 04:57 PM

Moin!

I don't tried this, but I reworked serveral .upc-files for the Typ 7c (crewmemberslots, weapons, sensors etc). I got everything working, but the german 3d-crew. For now, I sail with US-crew (without textures?!?).

Beware of typos! "A" isn't "a"!

This was my problem when I added the 88mm gun to the weapons.upc.

With the .upc-files, you can do nearly everything. Add/edit weapons, connings, crew, sensors, upgrades, behavior of battlestations...

Maybe, I get 1.4 installed till weekend, so I can edit the files, so that you have an alltime manned navigator-seat for all subs.
I would add a crewmember-slot for all watches, but without a crewmember. So you can ask one of the torpedo-crew, if he wants to play navigator...

Like this:

[UserPlayerUnit 1.Compartment 3.CrewMemberSlot 13]
ID=CrewMemberSlot_CommandW1C4
NameDisplayable=Command Room Crew
Type=Crewman
IDLinkCrewMemberLoaded=NULL
WatchCrewMemberSlot3D=NA_dummy
BattleStationsCrewMemberSlot3D=NULL
WatchAccessoriesForAdding3DObjects=NULL
WatchAccessoriesForSubtracting3DObjects=NULL
BattleAccessoriesForAdding3DObjects=NULL
BattleAccessoriesForSubtracting3DObjects=NULL

I will try It at the weekend. If it works, I'll create a package, posted here. But only, if I have time for 1.4...

jdkbph · 01-16-08, 07:28 PM

Ummm... but that's exactly what I did. With this mod I posted, you will have a full time navigator standing at his station for each of the 3 watches and another one for battlestations... all without taking a man from some other station (such as a planesman).

I really don't understand where the confusion is coming from. It sounds like we're asking the same question... and I believe I'm answering it... over and over again.

Seriously... what am I missing here?

JD

LukeFF · 01-17-08, 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdkbph

Actually no, it does work. The thing is we're not creating any new "nodes", but utilizing an existing node that currently is only active or "filled" at battlestations. I added 3 new crewmen to the command room section (upping the total from 12 to 15) and assigned them to that existing navigation station node during the normal 1st, 2nd and 3rd watch.

Try it. My example is for the Gato, although it may work with no, or perhaps just minor editing for the Balao and maybe some of the other fleet boats. But in any case you can see what I did and apply the same technique to any of the boats.

Okay, all I'll have to look at it again.

LukeFF · 01-17-08, 04:21 AM

Got it!

EAF274 Johan · 01-17-08, 08:31 AM

Looks great!

Factor · 01-17-08, 10:37 AM

would someone be so kind and upload the modified file. i cant get this to work. that would be great. thanks.

factor.

01-15-08, 10:22 AM	#16
jdkbph Captain Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 508 Downloads: 104 Uploads: 0	Don't have time to review this right now, but I forgot to mention that this MUST be done while in port. Could that be the problem? JD EDIT: Looks OK to me. Again, make sure you're in port (ie, the game loads directly to the office) when you apply this change. One other thing I forgot to mention... not terribly critical, but helps to clean up any rough edges. The 3 navigators I added are just place holders. Functional, but I don't think you want them to be regular crew. Their names, for instance, are Nav One, Nav Two and Nav Three. So as soon as you get into the office, click the crew picture on the desk to verify that the new positions and crewmen are present, then immediately retire those three place holder navigators and back fill with junior officers. JD Last edited by jdkbph; 01-15-08 at 12:53 PM.

01-15-08, 01:34 PM	#18
M. Sarsfield Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 1,016 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	This is nice. I'd like to see more people crammed into the conning tower at battle stations. How difficult would it be to do that? __________________ MJS USS Batfish Volunteer/Reenactor www.ss310.com www.ussbatfish.com Communism killed over 100M people and all that I got was this lousy signature.* *http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/COM.ART.HTM

01-15-08, 03:21 PM	#20
M. Sarsfield Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 1,016 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Oh. I thought they were talking about adding extra nodes. __________________ MJS USS Batfish Volunteer/Reenactor www.ss310.com www.ussbatfish.com Communism killed over 100M people and all that I got was this lousy signature.* *http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/COM.ART.HTM

01-16-08, 02:52 AM	#23
LukeFF Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Riverside, California Posts: 3,610 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 5	I know how this can be done, but you pretty much have to sacrifice one of the other slots in the control room for this to work. My first thought was to axe the dive planesman and move his slot to the navigator's table, but then there would be no one at the dive planes when the boat submerges. This is what we have to work with: The Diving Officer (the one standing behind the helmsman): not really an option, as he's kind of important. The helmsman: again, a needed position Planesman: as I mentioned above. The diving control man: again, not needed on the surface, but he needs to be there when the boat submerges. The way I see it, there's no real way to do this, unless some way can be found to add crew slots to the command room, which I just don't see happening right now. __________________ ROW Sound Effects Contributor RFB Team Leader

01-17-08, 04:21 AM	#28
LukeFF Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Riverside, California Posts: 3,610 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 5	Got it! __________________ ROW Sound Effects Contributor RFB Team Leader

01-15-08, 12:55 PM	#17
jdkbph Captain Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 508 Downloads: 104 Uploads: 0	Oh, and if anyone else is successful with this, please let me know so I can post it properly with a TEC prefix. Thanks. JD

01-15-08, 10:47 PM	#22
jdkbph Captain Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 508 Downloads: 104 Uploads: 0	I think if you're mid career, you have to edit the ActiveUserPlayerUnits.upc save game file. At least I know that works. I think the NSS_Gato.upc will only have an effect if you mod it then start a new career. I think. I'm not really too clear on exactly how and when these templates are being used. JD

01-16-08, 04:57 PM	#25
matzeesn Seaman Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 33 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	Moin! I don't tried this, but I reworked serveral .upc-files for the Typ 7c (crewmemberslots, weapons, sensors etc). I got everything working, but the german 3d-crew. For now, I sail with US-crew (without textures?!?). Beware of typos! "A" isn't "a"! This was my problem when I added the 88mm gun to the weapons.upc. With the .upc-files, you can do nearly everything. Add/edit weapons, connings, crew, sensors, upgrades, behavior of battlestations... Maybe, I get 1.4 installed till weekend, so I can edit the files, so that you have an alltime manned navigator-seat for all subs. I would add a crewmember-slot for all watches, but without a crewmember. So you can ask one of the torpedo-crew, if he wants to play navigator... Like this: [UserPlayerUnit 1.Compartment 3.CrewMemberSlot 13] ID=CrewMemberSlot_CommandW1C4 NameDisplayable=Command Room Crew Type=Crewman IDLinkCrewMemberLoaded=NULL WatchCrewMemberSlot3D=NA_dummy BattleStationsCrewMemberSlot3D=NULL WatchAccessoriesForAdding3DObjects=NULL WatchAccessoriesForSubtracting3DObjects=NULL BattleAccessoriesForAdding3DObjects=NULL BattleAccessoriesForSubtracting3DObjects=NULL I will try It at the weekend. If it works, I'll create a package, posted here. But only, if I have time for 1.4...

01-16-08, 07:28 PM	#26
jdkbph Captain Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 508 Downloads: 104 Uploads: 0	Ummm... but that's exactly what I did. With this mod I posted, you will have a full time navigator standing at his station for each of the 3 watches and another one for battlestations... all without taking a man from some other station (such as a planesman). I really don't understand where the confusion is coming from. It sounds like we're asking the same question... and I believe I'm answering it... over and over again. Seriously... what am I missing here? JD

01-17-08, 08:31 AM	#29
EAF274 Johan Ensign Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Gent, Belgium Posts: 228 Downloads: 94 Uploads: 0	Looks great! __________________ *Rock 'n' roll is the only religion that will never let you down*

01-17-08, 10:37 AM	#30
Factor Weps Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 356 Downloads: 180 Uploads: 0	would someone be so kind and upload the modified file. i cant get this to work. that would be great. thanks. factor.