Who will be the next President of the United States?

[Ishmael]

Originally Posted by dean_acheson

I'm sorry, you just offended every serious book I've ever read on Foreign Policy. And sir, after a B.A. in American History, a M.A. in American Diplomatic History, another M.A. un U.S. foriegn policy, and a J.D. with an emphasis in International Law, that is more than one or two.

We 'installed' the Shah? Where did you get this? Do you really believe those stupid stories about Eliott Roosevelt?

We 'caused' tensions with the Arab world? I think that was a pretty tension filled bunch long before we came on the scene.

We 'installed' Saddam? What?

'Meddled' with others 'internal' affiars? Yeah, that's called 'foreign policy,' most governments practice it.

Regarding the Shah and meddling in other's internal affairs, I would point you to "The CIA and The Cult Of Intelligence", by John Marks and Victor Marchetti for the salient facts that we did indeed install the Shah in 1954 with the help of the mullahs to prevent Mossadegh from nationalizing Iran's oil. It also spotlights "meddling" in guatemala in 1958, Vietnam in the 1960's and Chile in 1973 in the first instance of what Naomi Klein writes about in "The Shock Doctrine".

Now it is true we didn't install Saddam, we just sold him the nerve gas he used in Halabja. Sort of like Halliburton selling Iran gas centrifuge technology in the 90's while Cheney was running the show there. Or Sibel Edmonds statements of how we allowed our nuclear technology to be stolen and sold to the A.Q. Khan network on the sly.

With all due respect to your history degrees, I am still reminded of the phrase from "The Quiet Man".

If you knew your country's history like you claim to...