I hate Bush-but I don't know why

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[STEED]

George Bush went down hill fast after 9/11 on those dreadful decisions he made, US troops and Allied troops are paying the cost of revenge. Don't get me wrong, what was done on that fateful day sicken me to my stomach what those bastard terrorist did, but I feel G.B. should had taken a step back and seriously looked into the consequences of the invasion of Iraq before kicking down the door.

Granted as a non citizen of America I can not really comment what G.B. is like in taking and making decisions at home.

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by STEED

George Bush went down hill fast after 9/11 on those dreadful decisions he made, US troops and Allied troops are paying the cost of revenge. Don't get me wrong, what was done on that fateful day sicken me to my stomach what those bastard terrorist did, but I feel G.B. should had taken a step back and seriously looked into the consequences of the invasion of Iraq before kicking down the door.

Once more STEED, we are in total agreement

Granted as a non citizen of America I can not really comment what G.B. is like in taking and making decisions at home.

I think we get enough coverasge on this side of the pond to make at least a half-assed comment

I actually think I've got outrage fatigue from the last decade or so.

[mrbeast]

Originally Posted by kiwi_2005

How i see bush from down under - hes a modern day warrior who wasn't afraid to put his presidencey on the line by going to war.

But he wasn't willing to put his life on the line. This is a man that joined the US Air National Guard, opted not to serve overseas and then couldn't even be bothered to turn up half the time.

Some Warrior.

The one i think is the biggest clown and would probably make americans cringe when he said on live TV.

'I, did not have sexual relations with that woman' :rotfl: He lied to his fellow americans:hmm: Who doesn't but he was as smooth as they come looking down the camera eye to eye contact with not a hint of guilt... He should of worked for the CIA:p
Anyways ignore my post this is coming from a kiwi, who only know about your presidents from what i read here or see on TV.

Bill Clinton's dishonesty over his relationship with Monica Lewinsky has to date cost zero lives and destroyed nothing, save some of Clinton's (though if IIRC he left office with a high approval rating) credability.

Bush and his governments lies and incompetance have, to date, cost thousands of lives.

[August]

Originally Posted by mrbeast

But he wasn't willing to put his life on the line. This is a man that joined the US Air National Guard, opted not to serve overseas and then couldn't even be bothered to turn up half the time.

Some Warrior.

The man flew fighter jets. That, even in peace time is a very dangerous profession. Maybe not as dangerous as say, Infantryman, but certainly more hazardous than sitting in an airconditioned Saigon office pushing paperwork.

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by August

The man flew fighter jets. That, even in peace time is a very dangerous profession. Maybe not as dangerous as say, Infantryman, but certainly more hazardous than sitting in an airconditioned Saigon office pushing paperwork.

True. However, when you take into account what else was going at the time, ie the war, it is a relatively safe way to spend your time in the armed services.
Of course it's a lot safer not to show up.

[August]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

True. However, when you take into account what else was going at the time, ie the war, it is a relatively safe way to spend your time in the armed services.

But relative to what Tchock? "Recreation Center Specialist" handing out basketballs at an army resort in Austria? (an actual military job). Like I said, a Fighter Pilot, even just in Texas, was far more dangerous occupation than Saigon pencil pusher.

Of course there was always the Bill Clinton route; avoid military service altogether. Apparently even that backround allows a President to send our young men into harms way.

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by August

But relative to what Tchock? "Recreation Center Specialist" handing out basketballs at an army resort in Austria? (an actual military job) Like I said, a Fighter Pilot, even just in Texas, was far more dangerous occupation than Saigon pencil pusher.

That statement implies that all the US soldiers in Vietnam drove desks. Very misleading, that.
I mean relative to a pilot in theatre. Bush's unit contained quite a few privileged Texans. Coincidence or not, I don't know for sure but it smells damn funny. Especially when he didn't bother showing up and nobody seemed to mind. Even when his flight status was suspended nobody cared. A dangerous, yet seemingly inconsequential job.
Speaking of jobs, any vacancies for the basketballs? Sounds like one of those low-paying fun jobs with lots of free time

Of course there was always the Bill Clinton route; avoid military service altogether. Apparently even that backround allows a President to send our young men into harms way.

Bill-O's no saint either. One could argue that he was a little more honest than W :p
I wouldn't, but someone on DU might.

[Kapitan_Phillips]

Originally Posted by elite_hunter_sh3

Bad:

Also known as "Current UK Price Per Litre for Diesel"

[August]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

That statement implies that all the US soldiers in Vietnam drove desks. Very misleading, that.

That certainly wasn't my intention, but you do realize that the ratio of support to combat troops in any war zone is about 10 or 15 to 1.

Re: Rec. Ctr Specialist.

I met one of those guys while i was stationed in Germany. Arguably the best job in the Army.

[geetrue]

President Bush is not the first president that has had popularity problems, even President Truman had problems and he won WWII by dropping the A bomb.

I think President Bush will someday be considered one of our better Presidents.

History will prove that other countries are scarred to death to have the terroist that attacked America on 9/11 be in charge of their internal affairs.

President Bush's speeches were an encourgement to me and many others during the dark months after 9/11.

The fact that Iraq is showing improvement with it's troop surge tactic, plus 3,000 more US Marines are being sent to Afghanistan ...
proves America is doing something about terroism besides waiting for the next attack.

President Bush is my Commander in Chief and I am proud of it, except for the national debt that he has caused that is.

[Ishmael]

President Bush and his entire administration are war criminals who should be impeached, tried for treason, convicted and turned over with all supporting documentation to the International War Crimes Tribunal in the Hague.

Bush is merely the true face of the Republican Party. These people don't think government works, so why are you surprised when they can't make it work? What Bush has done besides eviscerating the Constitution and the Bill of Rights is foster the growth of private, corporate mercenary armies while all of his rich friends feed off the blood of our soldiers.

As far as his stint in the Texas Air Guard shows, he never really was a "fighter pilot" since he never took his final physical to be placed on Active status(he might have had to actually go to Vietnam and fly combat missions), then he deserted his post to go to Alabama. So that "service" can be summed up in two words, Shirker and Deserter.

I remember reading an article stating Bush's belief that the Anti-Christ is alive in the world. All I could think of was to suggest he either look in the closest mirror or ask the Vice-President to step in to see the proof of his statement. His entire life has been marked by failure, evasion of responsibility and leaving the messes he created for others to clean up. The other thing I noticed is how death seems to follow him wherever he goes. At a fundraiser for Domenici here last summer, one of his motorcycle police escorts was involved in a fatal accident. Then there was his appearance in Omaha the same day as the mass killings there.

[Ducimus]

As far as his stint in the Texas Air Guard shows, he never really was a "fighter pilot" since he never took his final physical to be placed on Active status(he might have had to actually go to Vietnam and fly combat missions), then he deserted his post to go to Alabama. So that "service" can be summed up in two words, Shirker and Deserter.

This.


Theres a reason why his military record is unavaiable or otherwise sealed. Paystubs indeed!

He was a rich kid who mucked about to get out of going to vietnam. I know first term Airman in the USAF that have served with far greater distinciton then Bush Jr.

[mapuc]

I think my thread has been, somehow, misunderstood, if it's because my bad english grammar, then I must apologize.

My postin' was only to tell you all, that there are people that hate Bush or love him, but just don't know much of his politics, no more what they hear/read or see on the telli/internet.

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