Not going to your patrol grid

[STEED]

The whole stinking renown system should be dumped, if possible.

It's a tonnage war not a bloody points war.

[3Jane]

But I just don't understand the thinking behind that decision as regards the imersion, veriety and possibly the character of the simulation as a whole. Reducing it I could understand or putting negative renown in it's place, but as I say with no reason to go to a particular grid area just head for the convoy lanes and bottlenecks.

[Sniper_Fox]

so in stock is there no loss for not going? im in the med and it keeps telling me to go back through gibraltar! i made that trip once, im not friggin doin it again!!!!!!

[STEED]

Originally Posted by Sniper_Fox

so in stock is there no loss for not going? im in the med and it keeps telling me to go back through gibraltar! i made that trip once, im not friggin doin it again!!!!!!

You will not rec'd any points nor we you loose any.

[Steel_Tomb]

Originally Posted by Sniper_Fox

so in stock is there no loss for not going? im in the med and it keeps telling me to go back through gibraltar! i made that trip once, im not friggin doin it again!!!!!!

I thought it was impossible to go back out through the straights of Gib? Because of the currents you cant get back out submerged.

[BulSoldier]

I think it should stay.It gives me an area witch i should patrol.If that happens i will never go to america or somewhere more than 1500km.

[Subwolf]

Originally Posted by STEED

The whole stinking renown system should be dumped, if possible.

It's a tonnage war not a bloody points war.

I couldn't agree more.

In my opinion GWX shouldn't mess with the renown system, or simply remove it if possible. They want to remove the patrol grid renown because it's unrealistic, fair enough, but then it becomes a lot harder to get upgrades etc, not very realistic either.

Medals and ranks should be based on tonnage sunk only, upgrades/new boat/better crew should become available after a specific number of successful patrols. Having to "buy" an officer with more skills isn't very realistic is it? GWX team please get rid of the renown.

[Blacklight]

Ok.. I'm going to go for it. I usually do run my Uboat on the surface around 8 knots. I'm going to head up north of Scapa Flow and then turn southwestward toward my assigned grid.

What's the best method I should use to conserve fuel so that I can drive myself back ? What I usually do is dive and go at about 4 knots then surface to recharge at around 8 knots, and then dive again...and repeat the process.

I always drive back to port after each mission and never warp back...and it looks like they just dropped a milk cow right near my patrol grid too. They must really love me !

[Tobus]

Originally Posted by Blacklight

Ok.. I'm going to go for it. I usually do run my Uboat on the surface around 8 knots. I'm going to head up north of Scapa Flow and then turn southwestward toward my assigned grid.

What's the best method I should use to conserve fuel so that I can drive myself back ? What I usually do is dive and go at about 4 knots then surface to recharge at around 8 knots, and then dive again...and repeat the process.

I always drive back to port after each mission and never warp back...and it looks like they just dropped a milk cow right near my patrol grid too. They must really love me !

Well, going under isn't going to save you fuel. This because the diesels burn plenty more fuel to get the batteries full again. After surfacing and setting speed to 8 kts means your engines burn fuel at about a normal speed of 12 kts to both power the boat and charge the batteries.

What I normally do is set speed at 8 kts manually. You can let your navigator report on range on current speed while playing around with set speed. My experience is that 8 kts is the speed where uboats get the most range. Note that sailing deep is better in lousy weather in GWX2, because heavy seas and wind give your diesels much more work and thus lower fueleconomy.

[Abd_von_Mumit]

Originally Posted by Tobus

Well, going under isn't going to save you fuel. This because the diesels burn plenty more fuel to get the batteries full again. After surfacing and setting speed to 8 kts means your engines burn fuel at about a normal speed of 12 kts to both power the boat and charge the batteries.

As far as I know charging batteries doesn't consume any diesel fuel at all IN THE GAME. It's unrealistic, but probably not moddable (someone would have fixed it if it was).

Optimum speed for VIIb type is 8.25 knots and after upgrading with GW Kapselgeblase it's 8.5 knots. The value is different for other types of boats.

[Schwuppes]

I've dumped the stupid renown thing all together... its not like the commanders had to "buy" their equipment.
I just edited the basic cfg to have all u boats and equipment to cost me nothing.

And I'm not planning go overboard and buy 50 T5 torpedos for every patrol.... I will play my career within realistic boundries... just without the renown system.

Speaking of which:
What was the typical torpedo payload of a VII submaine?

Would a commander have the choice to equip only electric torpedos if he so chose?
And in the later part of the war how many acoustic torpedos would each boat have got allocated?

[Gezoes]

I will be editing the basic.cfg then. I have a question on this fuel issue though. Abt has a point.

I always use my full batteries until they are at 60% or so, submerged at 2-3 knts, then re-surface. However, I do not set the speed manually, just Langzame Fahrt voraus or what is it called (the second one). That way the engines will run at say, 5,6 knts because the rest is used for charging. When recharged, the speed returns to the usual 8,9.

I've done this in all my IX's and now VII's.

You bet ya my fuel last longer if I also use my batteries to the fullest. There is NO way you will get back from the US in a VIIC with 8 knts and as little diving as possible.

Batteries = free speed

[kiwikapitan]

Originally Posted by Abd_von_Mumit

As far as I know charging batteries doesn't consume any diesel fuel at all IN THE GAME. It's unrealistic, but probably not moddable (someone would have fixed it if it was).

Optimum speed for VIIb type is 8.25 knots and after upgrading with GW Kapselgeblase it's 8.5 knots. The value is different for other types of boats.

Not true.

Recharging the batteries does use up diesel. Even just sitting on the surface at 0 kts on recharge will use up fuel. So you can't 'cheat' by just relying on the electrics. However it's not possible to run on the surface on the electric motors which is what a real u-boat could do to save fuel.

[Abd_von_Mumit]

Originally Posted by kiwikapitan

Not true.

Recharging the batteries does use up diesel. Even just sitting on the surface at 0 kts on recharge will use up fuel. So you can't 'cheat' by just relying on the electrics. However it's not possible to run on the surface on the electric motors which is what a real u-boat could do to save fuel.

1. As to consuming fuel or not, I'll wait for some modders' opinion - they usually know best for obvious reasons. I might be wrong, yes, but I'm still strongly convinced that loading batteries doesn't consume fuel at all IN SH3.

2. What do you mean saying that they used batteries for saving fuel? IRL using batteries doesn't help to save fuel, in fact it's an opposite, as you need more fuel to recharge the batteries after than you'd need to make the same distance. :hmm: