Not going to your patrol grid

3Jane · 01-11-08, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by danlisa

There's no penalty for not reaching/patrolling your assigned grid. However, as you are all excellent Kaleuns, you should of course follow your orders.:p

At the moment, GWX 2.0 will award renown for reaching/patrolling your grid. However, GWX 2.1 will remove this reward. Sorry, but it slipped through the net first time round.

If that is the case, I am not sure I will be using 2.1. As I see it, removing the renown from reaching your assigned grid simply turns every patrol into a 'NULL' grid assignement. If there is nothing to be gained or lost why not just head to the best hunting areas. Unless of course the negative renown is still in place for not reaching the grid square. But even so, simply dropping by the assigned square to avoid the negative renown then going on to more lucrative hunting areas, simply forces the player to make a side trip which doesn't really do anything for the game. Unless I am just not seeing the thinking behind it. If still in place, would the possibility of negative renown being awarded be removed after spending the 24 Hrs in the assigned grid.

danlisa · 01-11-08, 08:34 AM

There is no negative renown for not going to your grid. The game would award you 400 renown for reaching & patrolling your grid, however it will not take any away. There is also no renown awarded for manually returning to base/port. It was broken in stock SH3.

If you don't like this aspect of GWX 2.1 you are if course welcome to stay with 2.0 but you will miss some fundamental fixes. Of course, adding the renown back in is easy.

Your call.

Tobus · 01-11-08, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by danlisa

Of course, adding the renown back in is easy.

Ooohhh, do tell us how?!

danlisa · 01-11-08, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Tobus

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Originally Posted by danlisa

Of course, adding the renown back in is easy.

Ooohhh, do tell us how?!

basic.cfg

3Jane · 01-11-08, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by danlisa

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Originally Posted by Tobus

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Originally Posted by danlisa

Of course, adding the renown back in is easy.

Ooohhh, do tell us how?!

basic.cfg

But in my view replacing the lost renown still won't replace the lost aspects of an imersive career.

danlisa · 01-11-08, 09:33 AM

<sigh> My last word on this.

The basic.cfg holds the renown award for reaching/patroling & returning to base.

Add it back in, remove it or put it at an unusally high amount.

3Jane · 01-11-08, 10:00 AM

I would still like to know what the rationale was behind the decision though. I know about the basic config files, so if 2.1 removes the renown that aspect of it can be overridden by putting the renown scores back in as an automatic part of the normal game?. The whole point as I see it is, the renown for reaching your assigned grid position is an inducement to 'follow orders' as it were and thus adding to the imersive simulation of the career.

flag4 · 01-11-08, 10:51 AM

keep knots between 5 and 7. crank-up the tc's. be informed by your navigator as to how long your present speed will give you in distance, to your patrol grid; callculate this for your distance home....

....you'll make it !

STEED · 01-11-08, 08:37 AM

The whole stinking renown system should be dumped, if possible.

It's a tonnage war not a bloody points war.

3Jane · 01-11-08, 08:43 AM

But I just don't understand the thinking behind that decision as regards the imersion, veriety and possibly the character of the simulation as a whole. Reducing it I could understand or putting negative renown in it's place, but as I say with no reason to go to a particular grid area just head for the convoy lanes and bottlenecks.

Sniper_Fox · 01-11-08, 09:00 AM

so in stock is there no loss for not going? im in the med and it keeps telling me to go back through gibraltar! i made that trip once, im not friggin doin it again!!!!!!

STEED · 01-11-08, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Sniper_Fox

so in stock is there no loss for not going? im in the med and it keeps telling me to go back through gibraltar! i made that trip once, im not friggin doin it again!!!!!!

You will not rec'd any points nor we you loose any.

Steel_Tomb · 01-11-08, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Sniper_Fox

so in stock is there no loss for not going? im in the med and it keeps telling me to go back through gibraltar! i made that trip once, im not friggin doin it again!!!!!!

I thought it was impossible to go back out through the straights of Gib? Because of the currents you cant get back out submerged.

BulSoldier · 01-11-08, 09:06 AM

I think it should stay.It gives me an area witch i should patrol.If that happens i will never go to america or somewhere more than 1500km.

Subwolf · 01-11-08, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by STEED

The whole stinking renown system should be dumped, if possible.

It's a tonnage war not a bloody points war.

I couldn't agree more.

In my opinion GWX shouldn't mess with the renown system, or simply remove it if possible. They want to remove the patrol grid renown because it's unrealistic, fair enough, but then it becomes a lot harder to get upgrades etc, not very realistic either.

Medals and ranks should be based on tonnage sunk only, upgrades/new boat/better crew should become available after a specific number of successful patrols. Having to "buy" an officer with more skills isn't very realistic is it? GWX team please get rid of the renown.

01-11-08, 08:34 AM	#2
danlisa Navy Seal Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cornwall, UK Posts: 5,499 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 1	There is no negative renown for not going to your grid. The game would award you 400 renown for reaching & patrolling your grid, however it will not take any away. There is also no renown awarded for manually returning to base/port. It was broken in stock SH3. If you don't like this aspect of GWX 2.1 you are if course welcome to stay with 2.0 but you will miss some fundamental fixes. Of course, adding the renown back in is easy. Your call. __________________

01-11-08, 09:33 AM	#6
danlisa Navy Seal Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cornwall, UK Posts: 5,499 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 1	<sigh> My last word on this. The basic.cfg holds the renown award for reaching/patroling & returning to base. Add it back in, remove it or put it at an unusally high amount. __________________

01-11-08, 10:00 AM	#7
3Jane Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: York. Northern England. Posts: 1,004 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I would still like to know what the rationale was behind the decision though. I know about the basic config files, so if 2.1 removes the renown that aspect of it can be overridden by putting the renown scores back in as an automatic part of the normal game?. The whole point as I see it is, the renown for reaching your assigned grid position is an inducement to 'follow orders' as it were and thus adding to the imersive simulation of the career. __________________ Fate opposes me in vitality and morality, forced ever onward, burdened, always in shackles. So this very moment, without tarrying, pluck the quivering strings. Because fate punishes the one who plays, all lament with me. (http://hosted.filefront.com/KatherineRowan) Last edited by 3Jane; 01-11-08 at 10:31 AM.

01-11-08, 10:51 AM	#8
flag4 Watch Officer Join Date: May 2007 Location: as far away as possible Posts: 1,625 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 0	keep knots between 5 and 7. crank-up the tc's. be informed by your navigator as to how long your present speed will give you in distance, to your patrol grid; callculate this for your distance home.... *....you'll make it !* __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] ' We are here on Earth to fart around. Don't let anybody tell you any different.' Kurt Vonnegut

01-11-08, 08:37 AM	#9
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	The whole stinking renown system should be dumped, if possible. It's a tonnage war not a bloody points war. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

01-11-08, 08:43 AM	#10
3Jane Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: York. Northern England. Posts: 1,004 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	But I just don't understand the thinking behind that decision as regards the imersion, veriety and possibly the character of the simulation as a whole. Reducing it I could understand or putting negative renown in it's place, but as I say with no reason to go to a particular grid area just head for the convoy lanes and bottlenecks. __________________ Fate opposes me in vitality and morality, forced ever onward, burdened, always in shackles. So this very moment, without tarrying, pluck the quivering strings. Because fate punishes the one who plays, all lament with me. (http://hosted.filefront.com/KatherineRowan) Last edited by 3Jane; 01-11-08 at 09:00 AM.

01-11-08, 09:00 AM	#11
Sniper_Fox Engineer Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: North of Malta, shadowing your pretty little C3 Cargo! Posts: 212 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	so in stock is there no loss for not going? im in the med and it keeps telling me to go back through gibraltar! i made that trip once, im not friggin doin it again!!!!!! __________________ Im a one U-boat wolfpack. Ive hit the bottom of the Mediterranian at 250 metres in my VIIC and brought that babe back up, and still made it back to La Spezia. Ive sunk more destroyers than I have merchants...youll wish you never sailed into U-87s hunting grounds. When you pull into port, dont lull yourself into a false sense of security, your mines and subnets are just a petty challenge for my crew and I.

01-11-08, 09:06 AM	#14
BulSoldier Samurai Navy Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Burgas/Bulgaria Posts: 550 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	I think it should stay.It gives me an area witch i should patrol.If that happens i will never go to america or somewhere more than 1500km. __________________ By the hour !