How Many Torpedoes Do You Need To Sink the Nelson

U49 · 01-06-08, 07:41 PM

Last time in GWX 1.03 it was 3 ... Now in GWX 2.0 Nelson-class cost me 7 ... 2 duds and one miss inclusive

stew278 · 01-06-08, 08:09 PM

It took me 5 torpedos last time I sunk a Nelson class. Normally I go for 1m underkeel shots, but the seas were very rough and torpedos have a habit of either banging off the hull or whizzing on under in such bad weather. First I hit it 3 times with torpedos set at 3m depth on impact triggers. This brought it to a dead stop and the bow went under, but the ship was still afloat. After the escorts left, I hit it with one more torpedo towards the rear and it still didn't go under. The fifth hit finally did the trick.

Pretty tough considering I've taken down the Hood with 2 torpedos (in GWX 2.0) and I just took down an Illustrious class carrier with 3 torpedos during the same campaign.

Generally 3 hits seems to at least slow a large ship down enough to where the rest of the task force leaves it behind and you can set up for the killing blow. I've seen Revenge or Nelson class BB's keep on going at 20kts after 4 hits though, so you can never be sure.

Jonathan · 01-06-08, 08:19 PM

It seems that they made their big ships REALLY well...with lots of water tight compartments and what not.

yamato9 · 01-06-08, 09:17 PM

Yes they are tough M.....F...ks, but how much this is realistic. Note that the Royal Oak(HISTORICALY not in game) whas listed on back on only few torps.(i don´t remember now how much torps whas there one or two). I know that that the Royal Oak whas design from WW1 but....:hmm:

UnterseeBoogeyMan · 01-06-08, 10:34 PM

The number of torpedoes can vary, but I find it's an absolute must to have one go under smokestack into the boilers. I will get secondary explosions there every time, but not always under the turrets. I always set my fish to half the keel depth and at impact. That said, my ideal attack on a Nelson:

1- under smokestack
2- under fuel cell forward of smokestack,
3 -under turret forward of fuel cell.

I think I can do it with just 2, but I've always sunk it with 3. During Weserabung, I took out the Hood with a shot to the boilers and took out a Nelson class this way.

Stealth Hunter · 01-07-08, 02:49 AM

I used one, and that was right under the smokestack. Blew the whole ship to hell, and it sank in 2 minutes. She rolled over on her starboard side (the side I fired the torpedo into), and then started to go down by the stern, slowly spinning as her bow was pulled into the air. She went down vertically, and thus, that was the end of the Nelson.

Sniper_Fox · 01-07-08, 05:52 AM

I hit the hood with one torp 2/3 to aft, and she DETONATED like the poor babe did in reality... like my mate said above me... its got a hell of alot to do with luck... though I'd say 20-30% is your solution (if you've got a correct solution you've still got poor chances all things considered) another 20% is your positioning (if yer perpendicular to the ship you've got pretty decent chances for your impact detonators, which by the way are the only ones I use, since those damn magnetic ones have the F@#KING worst downside ever... BLOWING UP HALFWAY TO THE BLOODY TARGET!) and the last percentile is all luck... so you'd better hope yer an Irishman like yours truely!

by the way, has anyone here seen any american battleships outside american waters? my career is on the date of january 5th 1940, in the med. but even still I've had lots of run ins with american destroyers of the french coast

and when i made my crossing in through Gibraltar. see Das Boot, and you'll know what I went through... my boat sunk just through the straight and I hit the bottom somewhere at around 250m after being severely damaged in a depthcharging from a Hunter II and V&W{whom i mortally wounded with an eel to her low bow-port heard her sinking on the hydrophones (a bloody miricle they werent destroyed) and looked thru the periscope to see her nearly take my ship out whilst she made her final voyage to where i just rested myself!

i lost 12 of my best men, including my Cheif Engineer and my Navigator} brought the boat back up somehow {im in a VIIC} and made it to la spezia on fumes... a few more miles and i would have had to hoist the sails :rotfl:

01-06-08, 07:41 PM	#1
U49 Grey Wolf Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: D/Niedersachsen Posts: 777 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Last time in GWX 1.03 it was 3 ... Now in GWX 2.0 Nelson-class cost me 7 ... 2 duds and one miss inclusive __________________ SH3 battle capability upgrades: GWX2.0, JSGME2.0, SH3Commander 2.7, SH3Gen 0.8.2, TorpDamageMod 2.0, OLC GUI 1.1.5 Awaiting combat readiness for GWX2.0: SH4 effetcs for SH3, SH3Weather 1.5 Following development of: www.subwolves.com Realism: 90%

01-06-08, 08:19 PM	#3
Jonathan 中国水兵 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 285 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	It seems that they made their big ships REALLY well...with lots of water tight compartments and what not. __________________ SHIII Game Manual, In-Game Map, and Quick Reference Chart Can Be Downloaded From This Link: http://hosted.filefront.com/jnazari

01-07-08, 05:52 AM	#7
Sniper_Fox Engineer Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: North of Malta, shadowing your pretty little C3 Cargo! Posts: 212 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	I hit the hood with one torp 2/3 to aft, and she DETONATED like the poor babe did in reality... like my mate said above me... its got a hell of alot to do with luck... though I'd say 20-30% is your solution (if you've got a correct solution you've still got poor chances all things considered) another 20% is your positioning (if yer perpendicular to the ship you've got pretty decent chances for your impact detonators, which by the way are the only ones I use, since those damn magnetic ones have the F@#KING worst downside ever... BLOWING UP HALFWAY TO THE BLOODY TARGET!) and the last percentile is all luck... so you'd better hope yer an Irishman like yours truely! by the way, has anyone here seen any american battleships outside american waters? my career is on the date of january 5th 1940, in the med. but even still I've had lots of run ins with american destroyers of the french coast and when i made my crossing in through Gibraltar. see Das Boot, and you'll know what I went through... my boat sunk just through the straight and I hit the bottom somewhere at around 250m after being severely damaged in a depthcharging from a Hunter II and V&W{whom i mortally wounded with an eel to her low bow-port heard her sinking on the hydrophones (a bloody miricle they werent destroyed) and looked thru the periscope to see her nearly take my ship out whilst she made her final voyage to where i just rested myself! i lost 12 of my best men, including my Cheif Engineer and my Navigator} brought the boat back up somehow {im in a VIIC} and made it to la spezia on fumes... a few more miles and i would have had to hoist the sails :rotfl: __________________ Im a one U-boat wolfpack. Ive hit the bottom of the Mediterranian at 250 metres in my VIIC and brought that babe back up, and still made it back to La Spezia. Ive sunk more destroyers than I have merchants...youll wish you never sailed into U-87s hunting grounds. When you pull into port, dont lull yourself into a false sense of security, your mines and subnets are just a petty challenge for my crew and I.

01-06-08, 08:09 PM	#2
stew278 Loader Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Akron, OH Posts: 81 Downloads: 55 Uploads: 0	It took me 5 torpedos last time I sunk a Nelson class. Normally I go for 1m underkeel shots, but the seas were very rough and torpedos have a habit of either banging off the hull or whizzing on under in such bad weather. First I hit it 3 times with torpedos set at 3m depth on impact triggers. This brought it to a dead stop and the bow went under, but the ship was still afloat. After the escorts left, I hit it with one more torpedo towards the rear and it still didn't go under. The fifth hit finally did the trick. Pretty tough considering I've taken down the Hood with 2 torpedos (in GWX 2.0) and I just took down an Illustrious class carrier with 3 torpedos during the same campaign. Generally 3 hits seems to at least slow a large ship down enough to where the rest of the task force leaves it behind and you can set up for the killing blow. I've seen Revenge or Nelson class BB's keep on going at 20kts after 4 hits though, so you can never be sure.

01-06-08, 09:17 PM	#4
yamato9 Lieutenant Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sisak, Croatia Posts: 265 Downloads: 119 Uploads: 0	Yes they are tough M.....F...ks, but how much this is realistic. Note that the Royal Oak(HISTORICALY not in game) whas listed on back on only few torps.(i don´t remember now how much torps whas there one or two). I know that that the Royal Oak whas design from WW1 but....:hmm:

01-06-08, 10:34 PM	#5
UnterseeBoogeyMan Ensign Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: The Land of Cholla Cactus and Red Chile Posts: 224 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	The number of torpedoes can vary, but I find it's an absolute must to have one go under smokestack into the boilers. I will get secondary explosions there every time, but not always under the turrets. I always set my fish to half the keel depth and at impact. That said, my ideal attack on a Nelson: 1- under smokestack 2- under fuel cell forward of smokestack, 3 -under turret forward of fuel cell. I think I can do it with just 2, but I've always sunk it with 3. During Weserabung, I took out the Hood with a shot to the boilers and took out a Nelson class this way.

01-07-08, 02:49 AM	#6
Stealth Hunter Silent Hunter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Y'ha-Nthlei Posts: 4,262 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	I used one, and that was right under the smokestack. Blew the whole ship to hell, and it sank in 2 minutes. She rolled over on her starboard side (the side I fired the torpedo into), and then started to go down by the stern, slowly spinning as her bow was pulled into the air. She went down vertically, and thus, that was the end of the Nelson.