What escort do you hate most? - Page 2

Steel_Tomb · 01-06-08, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Brag

So far, in GWX 2.0 had only one encounter with escort. Bastard came in from behind. I didn't even know he was there till he started pinging from about 500 meters away.

Bet you wish they had towed arrays eh! Not nice to have something sneak up on you from in your baffles!

TarJak · 01-06-08, 02:06 PM

The one with hedgehogs that's closing on me right now is the one I hate most!

Iron Budokan · 01-06-08, 03:34 PM

Black Swan. Hate 'em!

Jimbuna · 01-06-08, 04:53 PM

I voted Black Swan because of the shortage of choice, but as TJ quite rightly states.....fear whatever it is, if it is armed with the hedgehog

yamato9 · 01-06-08, 06:16 PM

I think that the worst bastard is that who sink you just when you get nice tonnage rating in one mission(two C2Cargo, one T3tanker and one small merchant).

Destroyer is worst i think(i don´t like to see them in my periscope), fully featured sub killer machine.:hmm:

U49 · 01-06-08, 07:42 PM

Flower class ... they are everywhere and barely worth to shoot at ..

WilhelmSchulz. · 01-06-08, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

I voted Black Swan because of the shortage of choice, but as TJ quite rightly states.....fear whatever it is, if it is armed with the hedgehog

Well I do cover All baises. The Flower and Black swan. DDs witch cover the V&W, Hunt, Clemison. you get the idea. DEs cover the JC Butler, Evearts, River class, baiscly all the ones that fire the Head Hogs.

deepboat · 01-06-08, 10:38 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think Cmdr. Walker one of the most famous of the hunter/killer groups leaders did most of his operations from a Black Swan.

Jimbuna · 01-07-08, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by deepboat

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think Cmdr. Walker one of the most famous of the hunter/killer groups leaders did most of his operations from a Black Swan.

http://uboat.net/allies/personnel/walker.htm

Oberon · 01-07-08, 10:04 AM

Haven't gotten too late into the war yet, so for the moment it's those frikkin' ASW trawlers and Armed Trawlers who seem to have some kind of clairvoyance as they circle overhead. Never dropping D/Cs accurately but not leaving me alone!!

Of course, the participants of Zerstorerfest 1940 rank pretty high on my list of 'torpedo at nearest opportunity'.

panzer 49th · 01-07-08, 10:39 AM

Black Swans are the most annoying ships I find i dont mind the dd's and de's but those black swans are so acurate with thier dc's :hmm:

seafarer · 01-07-08, 10:58 AM

Nailed a Black Swan in the Med just this weekend. Came charging straight at me, so I put an electric eel a metre under his keel and he sank quickly - plowing his own bow under rapidly as it flooded

We (U-371, type VIIC) went on to sink the Ore Carrier it had been escorting too

Of course, there was a rear guard Black Swan too, but as we went deep and silent running, he just ran off fast to the east (dropped some charges, but they were nowhere near us). No point hanging around I guess, with his charge and his fellow escort already sunk.

I find the escorts to be a bit slow on the uptake in '41 in the Med. In the past two patrols, we've sunk a Town class, a Hunt III, and now a Black Swan (also took out a Dido and a Southampton, but these cruisers were unescorted).

--
SHIII-1.4, GWX-2.0
U-371 (VIIC) with the 23rd out of Salamis

Wulfmann · 01-07-08, 01:56 PM

Good description on the "sloops" MM

Because I edit my RND file and have the Egret, Grimsby and Bittern classes (forerunner to the Black Swan) I see more of these in the early years.
As was said these were made to escort convoys from base to base without refueling so were the primary early escort along with trawlers and old DDs like the V&W which were short legged and required running off to get fuel.
The A&B added by GWX2 were A-H class DDs that were worn out had their guns and torpedoes reduced and AS equipment upped as well as boilers removed reducing speed and increasing fuel capacity and range.
The corvettes annoy me as they are hard to hit but the sloops seem to be the deadlier AS ships at least to me.

Wulfmann

TomcatMVD · 01-07-08, 02:32 PM

Anything that floats over the water is bad enough for me

deepboat · 01-09-08, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

Quote:

Originally Posted by deepboat

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think Cmdr. Walker one of the most famous of the hunter/killer groups leaders did most of his operations from a Black Swan.

http://uboat.net/allies/personnel/walker.htm

[ I stand corrected! Haven't come across any sloops yet!

View Poll Results: What escort do you hate most?
Flower Corvet	8	12.90%
Black Swan	35	56.45%
Destroyers	9	14.52%
Destroyer Escorts	10	16.13%
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01-06-08, 03:34 PM	#18
Iron Budokan Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,778 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Black Swan. Hate 'em! __________________ "You will take on England wherever you find her ships, and you will break her power at sea." --Iron Coffins, Herbert A. Werner http://kennethmarkhoover.com

01-06-08, 04:53 PM	#19
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 191,458 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I voted Black Swan because of the shortage of choice, but as TJ quite rightly states.....fear whatever it is, if it is armed with the hedgehog __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

01-06-08, 07:42 PM	#21
U49 Grey Wolf Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: D/Niedersachsen Posts: 777 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Flower class Flower class ... they are everywhere and barely worth to shoot at .. __________________ SH3 battle capability upgrades: GWX2.0, JSGME2.0, SH3Commander 2.7, SH3Gen 0.8.2, TorpDamageMod 2.0, OLC GUI 1.1.5 Awaiting combat readiness for GWX2.0: SH4 effetcs for SH3, SH3Weather 1.5 Following development of: www.subwolves.com Realism: 90%

01-06-08, 10:38 PM	#23
deepboat Gunner Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In an Octopuss' Garden Posts: 99 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	Correct me if I'm wrong but I think Cmdr. Walker one of the most famous of the hunter/killer groups leaders did most of his operations from a Black Swan. __________________ Smoke on the horizon captain!

01-06-08, 02:06 PM	#17
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	The one with hedgehogs that's closing on me right now is the one I hate most!

01-06-08, 06:16 PM	#20
yamato9 Lieutenant Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sisak, Croatia Posts: 265 Downloads: 119 Uploads: 0	I think that the worst bastard is that who sink you just when you get nice tonnage rating in one mission(two C2Cargo, one T3tanker and one small merchant). Destroyer is worst i think(i don´t like to see them in my periscope), fully featured sub killer machine.:hmm:

01-07-08, 10:04 AM	#25
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Haven't gotten too late into the war yet, so for the moment it's those frikkin' ASW trawlers and Armed Trawlers who seem to have some kind of clairvoyance as they circle overhead. Never dropping D/Cs accurately but not leaving me alone!! Of course, the participants of Zerstorerfest 1940 rank pretty high on my list of 'torpedo at nearest opportunity'.

01-07-08, 10:39 AM	#26
panzer 49th Weps Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 361 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Black Swans are the most annoying ships I find i dont mind the dd's and de's but those black swans are so acurate with thier dc's :hmm: __________________

01-07-08, 10:58 AM	#27
seafarer Commodore Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 622 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Nailed a Black Swan in the Med just this weekend. Came charging straight at me, so I put an electric eel a metre under his keel and he sank quickly - plowing his own bow under rapidly as it flooded We (U-371, type VIIC) went on to sink the Ore Carrier it had been escorting too Of course, there was a rear guard Black Swan too, but as we went deep and silent running, he just ran off fast to the east (dropped some charges, but they were nowhere near us). No point hanging around I guess, with his charge and his fellow escort already sunk. I find the escorts to be a bit slow on the uptake in '41 in the Med. In the past two patrols, we've sunk a Town class, a Hunt III, and now a Black Swan (also took out a Dido and a Southampton, but these cruisers were unescorted). -- SHIII-1.4, GWX-2.0 U-371 (VIIC) with the 23rd out of Salamis __________________ My Father's ship, HMCS Waskesiu (K330), sank U257 on 02/24/1944 running SHIII-1.4 with GWX2.1 and SHIV-1.5 with TMO/RSRDC/PE3.3 under MS Vista Home Premium 32-bit SP1 ACER AMD Athlon 64x2 4800+, 4GB DDR2 RAM, 400GB SATA HD Antec TruePower Trio 650watt PSU BFG GeForce 8800GT/OC 512MB VRAM, Samsung 216BW widescreen (1680x1050) LCD Last edited by seafarer; 01-07-08 at 11:16 AM.

01-07-08, 01:56 PM	#28
Wulfmann Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 1,010 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Good description on the "sloops" MM Because I edit my RND file and have the Egret, Grimsby and Bittern classes (forerunner to the Black Swan) I see more of these in the early years. As was said these were made to escort convoys from base to base without refueling so were the primary early escort along with trawlers and old DDs like the V&W which were short legged and required running off to get fuel. The A&B added by GWX2 were A-H class DDs that were worn out had their guns and torpedoes reduced and AS equipment upped as well as boilers removed reducing speed and increasing fuel capacity and range. The corvettes annoy me as they are hard to hit but the sloops seem to be the deadlier AS ships at least to me. Wulfmann __________________ "The right to keep and bear arms should not be infringed upon, if only to prevent tyranny in government" Thomas Jefferson,; Constitutional debates

01-07-08, 02:32 PM	#29
TomcatMVD Weps Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: MVD, UY Posts: 359 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Anything that floats over the water is bad enough for me