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Old 01-04-08, 03:11 AM   #16
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Our friend Periscope (from SH4 forum) suggested nHancer tweak as a probable solution and he was right: nHancer solved the problem and save my day!
Yeah, Nvidia also can show the same image quality present on ATI cards: it´s the most obvious supersampling (SS) AA modes that are hide on the Nvidia drives!

This will bring some FPS hit (from 20 to 60%, depends on the SS AA mode that you will use - and nHancer provides a lot of them) but for these new cards and rigs this isn´t a real issue. I also didn´t test these new settings with others old sims but the result shall be the same good one. And after all that i become to think if new Nvidia cards have really more FPS than new ATi cards with AA enabled or are just only cheats???

I will try to write a special guide for Nvidia&SH games&ImageQuality using nHancer and will post here.

Thanks again Periscope!
That would be great !
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Old 01-04-08, 10:38 AM   #17
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You can activat and deaktivate the AA in game by "shift Pageup and shift pagedown. During night patrol I deactivate AA to get rid of the shimmering problems and during day I activate the AA.

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Doing that porks my sonar and radar displays-they come out all black, with a strange artifact in the lower left which is a distorted image of the radar screen.
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Old 01-04-08, 10:59 AM   #18
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Rubini,

Thanks for the research and looking forward for the how too. As newer video cards come out and drivers are updated you will find that "older games" will develop graphic problems. This has been inherently so with IL-2 and water rendering. Thanks to continued support from the developer those issues have been ironed out.

On the other hand for games that are no longer supported in that regard you have to decide on staying with older hardware and drivers or just living with visually poorer graphics and anomolies.

Eventually, in five years a state of the art PC will probably not be able to display SH3 or IL-2 in an acceptable manner. My theory anyway!
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Old 01-04-08, 12:17 PM   #19
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Rubini,

Thanks for the research and looking forward for the how too. As newer video cards come out and drivers are updated you will find that "older games" will develop graphic problems. This has been inherently so with IL-2 and water rendering. Thanks to continued support from the developer those issues have been ironed out.

On the other hand for games that are no longer supported in that regard you have to decide on staying with older hardware and drivers or just living with visually poorer graphics and anomolies.

Eventually, in five years a state of the art PC will probably not be able to display SH3 or IL-2 in an acceptable manner. My theory anyway!
Hi Wilcke,

Yes, I agree. But SH3 and mainly SH4 aren't yet old games and nvidia runs well - the problem is the image quality (isn't a compatibility problem) that isn't at same level of the ATI cards out of the box. You need a 3rd part tweak to activate the SSAA - at expense of huge FPS hit - so, what Nvidia is hidden from the consumers? A big AA cheat to show more FPS on the hardware bench sites??? This is a question that don't want to go from my mind...:hmm:

Anyhow, for now, after this tweak I'm happy with it.
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Old 01-04-08, 12:26 PM   #20
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Rubini,

Thanks for the research and looking forward for the how too. As newer video cards come out and drivers are updated you will find that "older games" will develop graphic problems. This has been inherently so with IL-2 and water rendering. Thanks to continued support from the developer those issues have been ironed out.

On the other hand for games that are no longer supported in that regard you have to decide on staying with older hardware and drivers or just living with visually poorer graphics and anomolies.

Eventually, in five years a state of the art PC will probably not be able to display SH3 or IL-2 in an acceptable manner. My theory anyway!
Hi Wilcke,

Yes, I agree. But SH3 and mainly SH4 aren't yet old games and nvidia runs well - the problem is the image quality (isn't a compatibility problem) that isn't at same level of the ATI cards out of the box. You need a 3rd part tweak to activate the SSAA - at expense of huge FPS hit - so, what Nvidia is hidden from the consumers? A big AA cheat to show more FPS on the hardware bench sites??? This is a question that don't want to go from my mind...:hmm:

Anyhow, for now, after this tweak I'm happy with it.
When will we see the guide for Nvidia&SH games&ImageQuality using nHancer?
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Old 01-04-08, 12:27 PM   #21
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Rub...forgive me if I missed it but what VC are you using mate...

And I run a GF6600gt PCIE and this 3rd part program would help the grahics? And back in the day I also ran a Vodoo...still got it matter of fact
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Old 01-04-08, 12:51 PM   #22
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Rub...forgive me if I missed it but what VC are you using mate...

And I run a GF6600gt PCIE and this 3rd part program would help the grahics? And back in the day I also ran a Vodoo...still got it matter of fact
Hi mate; it's on the first post...I just built a new rig: E6850, Gygabyte P35 DS3, 8800GT 512, and a 26" LCD wide TVmonitor. My old card was a X800XTPE.

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When will we see the guide for Nvidia&SH games&ImageQuality using nHancer?
It's a very time consuming task, trial and error work. I'm also testing more than one of the new Nvidia drivers. I will then write the "guide" to our community and will post here. The main goal is very good image quality on Nvidia.
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