Antialiasing with 169.21 Nvidia drivers - Page 2

clayp · 12-27-07, 12:33 PM

I belive it looks like the bottom one..Also I forgot to say that I'm useing the last 162 driver,seems to be the smoothest on my system....

jdkbph · 12-27-07, 09:07 PM

Clayp,

Can I ask you to do me a favor and confirm that your sun looks like the 2nd image? I just tried it using your exact settings and I get the sun disk as in the 1st image. If you're really getting the proper glare effect with those setting I'm going to have to roll back to whatever drivers you're using!

Thanks

JD

jasonsagert · 12-27-07, 11:44 PM

I run a 8800gtx. I've been using the driver version that dell last released for the card (which has to be old) as I have no problems with the games I play (including crysis) and I'm always leary to change drivers unless I have an issue.

I run SH4 with 4xAA and 8xAF. To get the sun glare/halo with AA I had to turn off the AA gamma correction (which I made sh4.exe specific via the nvidia control panel). I've found that if I increase the AA further than 4x I lose the sun glare/halo.

OMS

clayp · 12-28-07, 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdkbph

Clayp,

Can I ask you to do me a favor and confirm that your sun looks like the 2nd image? I just tried it using your exact settings and I get the sun disk as in the 1st image. If you're really getting the proper glare effect with those setting I'm going to have to roll back to whatever drivers you're using!

Thanks

JD

I'll try to get you a picture tomorrow in between hospital vist's...

jdkbph · 12-28-07, 11:21 AM

Hey no problem. No pictures necessary. Next you run the game just let me know what you see when you look at the sun. Does it look like pic 1 or pic 2 above?

Thanks.

JD

PS, I did find that AA gamma correction OFF makes a difference as Jason mentioned. Not sure yet if I'm getting the full Monty with that setting and AA/AF set higher than 4x. Have to do more experimenting.

clayp · 12-28-07, 10:12 PM

Here you go..Also I game you some bum info..On SH4 I run AF and AA at 8...

jdkbph · 12-28-07, 11:44 PM

So what drivers are you running?

clayp · 12-29-07, 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdkbph

So what drivers are you running?

162.18 I belive....

AVGWarhawk · 12-29-07, 09:13 AM

I just installed a EVEA Nvidia 7800 GS OC. I also installed the new drivers found at the the Nividia driver site. These are my results:

I set up the card using the global settings and created this file to work off the sh4.exe. I set AA/AF to X4. No jaggy. Very smooth.

I see two of my screenshots on this thread. These shots were taken using a ATI X1300. At one time I was able to get sun halo as shown in the second pic. Normally the ATI looked like the first pic....just a round circle.

Driver version 6.14.11.6921. I guess the latest drivers for the 7800 card found on the Nvidia site.

clayp · 12-29-07, 11:10 AM

Very nice Hawk...

jdkbph · 12-29-07, 11:37 AM

Well, alrighty then... the key to getting sun glare - and - avoiding the jaggies appears to be setting AA Gamma Correction to OFF. Otherwise, you can run AA and AF at whatever value you like. I'm running mine at 8x for both, which seems to be a good balance balance between quality and performance.

Thanks guys for walking me through this one.

JD

BTW, I made these adjustments specifically for the SH4 executable. That functionality works with the 169.28 beta drivers, whereas is seems to be broken with the 169.21 and 16.25 drivers.

clayp · 12-29-07, 12:41 PM

Well then I'm glad if its working for you...I finally got to help someone here...

AVGWarhawk · 12-29-07, 01:03 PM

Glad it worked. Nothing like dumping money into something and it does not work correctly. Chaulk one up for ClayP!

ATR-42 · 12-29-07, 02:47 PM

This is strange, im just not sure if ANY settings are being applied to SH4.

Im trying different settings in global and per the exe (from nvidia control panel) and when i relaunch the game it really doesnt look any different. im checking it in port. FPS number is fluxing so fast its hard to read. its usually in the 30's but it jumps like crazy.

i get the same performance if i set the AA to OFF or 16x! so thats impossible that the settings are being applied correctly... also, the cranes look smooth but once you take a look at them with the binocs they look like stair steps...

maybe i should try a different driver version?

eVGA 8800 GTS 640
Res 1920x1200
Drivers 169.28 beta
same results with the dec 11th offical drivers

jdkbph · 12-29-07, 02:54 PM

Did you set AA Gamma Correction to OFF?

12-27-07, 12:33 PM	#16
clayp The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,554 Downloads: 340 Uploads: 0	I belive it looks like the bottom one..Also I forgot to say that I'm useing the last 162 driver,seems to be the smoothest on my system.... __________________ clayp

12-28-07, 10:12 PM	#21
clayp The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,554 Downloads: 340 Uploads: 0	Here you go..Also I game you some bum info..On SH4 I run AF and AA at 8... __________________ clayp

12-29-07, 09:13 AM	#24
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,261 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	I just installed a EVEA Nvidia 7800 GS OC. I also installed the new drivers found at the the Nividia driver site. These are my results: I set up the card using the global settings and created this file to work off the sh4.exe. I set AA/AF to X4. No jaggy. Very smooth. I see two of my screenshots on this thread. These shots were taken using a ATI X1300. At one time I was able to get sun halo as shown in the second pic. Normally the ATI looked like the first pic....just a round circle. Driver version 6.14.11.6921. I guess the latest drivers for the 7800 card found on the Nvidia site. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

12-29-07, 11:10 AM	#25
clayp The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,554 Downloads: 340 Uploads: 0	Very nice Hawk... __________________ clayp

12-29-07, 12:41 PM	#27
clayp The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,554 Downloads: 340 Uploads: 0	Well then I'm glad if its working for you...I finally got to help someone here... __________________ clayp

12-27-07, 09:07 PM	#17
jdkbph Captain Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 508 Downloads: 104 Uploads: 0	Clayp, Can I ask you to do me a favor and confirm that your sun looks like the 2nd image? I just tried it using your exact settings and I get the sun disk as in the 1st image. If you're really getting the proper glare effect with those setting I'm going to have to roll back to whatever drivers you're using! Thanks JD

12-27-07, 11:44 PM	#18
jasonsagert Torpedoman Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 113 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I run a 8800gtx. I've been using the driver version that dell last released for the card (which has to be old) as I have no problems with the games I play (including crysis) and I'm always leary to change drivers unless I have an issue. I run SH4 with 4xAA and 8xAF. To get the sun glare/halo with AA I had to turn off the AA gamma correction (which I made sh4.exe specific via the nvidia control panel). I've found that if I increase the AA further than 4x I lose the sun glare/halo. OMS

12-28-07, 11:21 AM	#20
jdkbph Captain Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 508 Downloads: 104 Uploads: 0	Hey no problem. No pictures necessary. Next you run the game just let me know what you see when you look at the sun. Does it look like pic 1 or pic 2 above? Thanks. JD PS, I did find that AA gamma correction OFF makes a difference as Jason mentioned. Not sure yet if I'm getting the full Monty with that setting and AA/AF set higher than 4x. Have to do more experimenting.

12-28-07, 11:44 PM	#22
jdkbph Captain Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 508 Downloads: 104 Uploads: 0	So what drivers are you running?

12-29-07, 11:37 AM	#26
jdkbph Captain Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 508 Downloads: 104 Uploads: 0	Well, alrighty then... the key to getting sun glare - and - avoiding the jaggies appears to be setting AA Gamma Correction to OFF. Otherwise, you can run AA and AF at whatever value you like. I'm running mine at 8x for both, which seems to be a good balance balance between quality and performance. Thanks guys for walking me through this one. JD BTW, I made these adjustments specifically for the SH4 executable. That functionality works with the 169.28 beta drivers, whereas is seems to be broken with the 169.21 and 16.25 drivers.

12-29-07, 01:03 PM	#28
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,261 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Glad it worked. Nothing like dumping money into something and it does not work correctly. Chaulk one up for ClayP! __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

12-29-07, 02:47 PM	#29
ATR-42 Commodore Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Jersey Shore Posts: 606 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 6	This is strange, im just not sure if ANY settings are being applied to SH4. Im trying different settings in global and per the exe (from nvidia control panel) and when i relaunch the game it really doesnt look any different. im checking it in port. FPS number is fluxing so fast its hard to read. its usually in the 30's but it jumps like crazy. i get the same performance if i set the AA to OFF or 16x! so thats impossible that the settings are being applied correctly... also, the cranes look smooth but once you take a look at them with the binocs they look like stair steps... maybe i should try a different driver version? eVGA 8800 GTS 640 Res 1920x1200 Drivers 169.28 beta same results with the dec 11th offical drivers __________________

12-29-07, 02:54 PM	#30
jdkbph Captain Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 508 Downloads: 104 Uploads: 0	Did you set AA Gamma Correction to OFF?