Missing gun crew

kylesplanet · 12-22-07, 11:57 PM

Yep it has happened to me several times, as a matter of fact, it is that way in my game right now. It usually happens when I upgrade my deck gun. It also really slows down the rate of fire, takes much longer to re-load.

Elder-Pirate · 12-23-07, 12:14 AM

Happened to me also a few times. I've since learned that whatever end of the sub the deck gun is default at port don't change it.

I think the admiral has it in for us anyway.

Fincuan · 12-23-07, 05:38 AM

Yep, that usually happens when changing the gun from one end to another. See here for a solution: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...2&postcount=14

edit: Actually that seems to help you to replace a bow deck gun with a stern one, not to return lost slots. You can load an older savegame and move the gun using the procedure described in the post(You have to be in port to do that), or try this if you want to keep your current save:

1. Locate and BACKUP your ActiveUserPlayerUnits.upc in My Documents/SH4/data/cfg/SaveGames/0000000X. Replace X with the number of the savegame you want to edit. You have to be in port to do this.

2. See if the gun is installed in compartment 7(stern deck gun) or 8(bow deck gun). This is done by looking at [UserPlayerUnit 1.Compartment X.WeaponSlot 1.Weapon]. Replace X with compartment number. When you find that line, look under it for a weapon ID. If there is one(something like 4in50calUS), then there's a weapon installed.

3. Now scroll down a bit and find [UserPlayerUnit 1.Compartment X.CrewMemberSlotAdditionalRepository 1](again, substitute X with the previously found compartment number). Remove the bold part, so that it reads: [UserPlayerUnit 1.Compartment X.CrewMemberSlot 1]. Scroll down even more and do the same for [UserPlayerUnit 1.Compartment X.CrewMemberSlot 2]

4. Save the file, start up SH4 and see if it worked. If you got even the bow gunnerslots back, then you can use the procedure described in the post I linked at the beginning to get a stern gun.

12-23-07, 06:21 AM

Thanks for your answers

Fishu · 12-30-07, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Fincuan

3. Now scroll down a bit and find [UserPlayerUnit 1.Compartment X.CrewMemberSlotAdditionalRepository 1](again, substitute X with the previously found compartment number). Remove the bold part, so that it reads: [UserPlayerUnit 1.Compartment X.CrewMemberSlot 1]. Scroll down even more and do the same for [UserPlayerUnit 1.Compartment X.CrewMemberSlot 2]

Besides this you may need to also check the leader status of the first slot. I noticed that the both crew slot type can be "Crewman" after changing the guns and this leaves, even when fixed by the instructions above, the gun crew without a leader. Although I don't know what's the effect of leader.

In the stern gun the CrewMemberSlot 1 and in the bow gun the CrewMemberSlot 2 type should read "Leader". The other slot type should be "Crewman". When this has been succesfully fixed you should see the change in the crew screen - The first appearing gun slot should be bigger than the second and the slot outlined in blue when uncrewed.

Fincuan · 01-02-08, 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fishu

Besides this you may need to also check the leader status of the first slot. I noticed that the both crew slot type can be "Crewman" after changing the guns and this leaves, even when fixed by the instructions above, the gun crew without a leader. Although I don't know what's the effect of leader.

In the stern gun the CrewMemberSlot 1 and in the bow gun the CrewMemberSlot 2 type should read "Leader". The other slot type should be "Crewman". When this has been succesfully fixed you should see the change in the crew screen - The first appearing gun slot should be bigger than the second and the slot outlined in blue when uncrewed.

That's a good remark

Now that I look at my files, it seems that I had actually done that to my own savegame, but forgot to write it here. IIRC the guy in the leader slot can give some kind of "leader's bonus" to the compartment(the gun in this case), which you of course lose if there's no leader, but other than that it should still work.

DavyJonesFootlocker · 01-02-08, 07:47 AM

My problem with the gun crew is that when in the office the game won't assign a crew. I have to use my renown points and get two seamen. Don't know if it's a Mod thing because I use Sober's Super Mod and use the RSRDC Mod.

12-23-07, 12:14 AM	#2
Elder-Pirate Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Morris, Illinois USA Posts: 1,090 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	Happened to me also a few times. I've since learned that whatever end of the sub the deck gun is default at port *don't* change it. I think the admiral has it in for us anyway. __________________

12-23-07, 05:38 AM	#3
Fincuan Admiral Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Suomi, sauna, puukko, perkele Posts: 2,346 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	Yep, that usually happens when changing the gun from one end to another. See here for a solution: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...2&postcount=14 edit: Actually that seems to help you to replace a bow deck gun with a stern one, not to return lost slots. You can load an older savegame and move the gun using the procedure described in the post(You have to be in port to do that), or try this if you want to keep your current save: 1. Locate and BACKUP your ActiveUserPlayerUnits.upc in My Documents/SH4/data/cfg/SaveGames/0000000X. Replace X with the number of the savegame you want to edit. You have to be in port to do this. 2. See if the gun is installed in compartment 7(stern deck gun) or 8(bow deck gun). This is done by looking at [UserPlayerUnit 1.Compartment X.WeaponSlot 1.Weapon]. Replace X with compartment number. When you find that line, look under it for a weapon ID. If there is one(something like 4in50calUS), then there's a weapon installed. 3. Now scroll down a bit and find [UserPlayerUnit 1.Compartment X.CrewMemberSlotAdditionalRepository 1](again, substitute X with the previously found compartment number). Remove the bold part, so that it reads: [UserPlayerUnit 1.Compartment X.CrewMemberSlot 1]. Scroll down even more and do the same for [UserPlayerUnit 1.Compartment X.CrewMemberSlot 2] 4. Save the file, start up SH4 and see if it worked. If you got even the bow gunnerslots back, then you can use the procedure described in the post I linked at the beginning to get a stern gun. Last edited by Fincuan; 12-23-07 at 06:01 AM.

12-22-07, 11:57 PM	#1
kylesplanet Commodore Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 629 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	Yep it has happened to me several times, as a matter of fact, it is that way in my game right now. It usually happens when I upgrade my deck gun. It also really slows down the rate of fire, takes much longer to re-load.

12-23-07, 06:21 AM	#4
Goose_green Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Thanks for your answers

01-02-08, 07:47 AM	#7
DavyJonesFootlocker The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Stink Drunk in Trinidad Posts: 1,572 Downloads: 138 Uploads: 0	My problem with the gun crew is that when in the office the game won't assign a crew. I have to use my renown points and get two seamen. Don't know if it's a Mod thing because I use Sober's Super Mod and use the RSRDC Mod.