Illegal immigrants packing up and leaving Arizona

[Onkel Neal]

Illegal immigrants in Arizona, frustrated with a flagging economy and tough new legislation cracking down on their employers, are returning to their home countries or trying their luck in other states.

For months, immigrants have taken a wait-and-see attitude toward the state's new employer-sanctions law, which takes effect January 1. The voter-approved legislation is an attempt to lessen the economic incentive for illegal immigrants in Arizona, the busiest crossing point along the U.S.-Mexico border.

And by all appearances, it's starting to work.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/12/22/immigrants.leave.ap/index.html

No surprise here. If we enforce our immigration laws through the workplace, illegals will go home. No need to mass deportation.

I wonder which states are going to catch the overflow? :hmm: I better write my congressman (again).

[SUBMAN1]

Sometimes I think Arizona is the only state with a clue. I'd move down there, but its too damn hot in the summer.

-S

[Tchocky]

It would be interesting to see how much of this is due to the slowing economy, and how much due to the new laws. It's probably a scissor effect, but knowing the breaks would be beneficial for other states.
By their nature, migrant workers are often the first to react to worsening economic conditions. Shocks hit faster, as does expansion. Job security is nil.

[AVGWarhawk]

I believe they will just move to another state that does not enforce such laws. Basically, Arizona is making it someone elses problem.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

I believe they will just move to another state that does not enforce such laws. Basically, Arizona is making it someone elses problem.

Yeah, Mexico's. It says they are moving back to Mexico, or trying their luck in other states. Seems we need to get tough everywhere and then they will all go back to Mexico. The people interviewed say they are better off in Mexico though, so that is where they went.

-S

[NEON DEON]

Maybe the U.S. should just annex Mexico.

[Torplexed]

Originally Posted by NEON DEON

Maybe the U.S. should just annex Mexico.

That idea already has it's own website.

http://annexmexico.org/

[NEON DEON]

Originally Posted by Torplexed

That idea already has it's own website.

http://annexmexico.org/

Awe crap! I thought I actually had an original idea!

[Letum]

Abasonad dinklu

[GT182]

They 're coming here to Delaware, Maryland, and Virginia Neal, they're not going home. There are more illegals here than you can shake a stick at..... and they're not all Mexicans. DE is one state with absolutely no US Border Patrol. INS is the only ones to do the dirty work and clean things up around here.... and it ain't happening.

[geetrue]

Illegal immigrants in Arizona, frustrated with a flagging economy and tough new legislation cracking down on their employers, are returning to their home countries or trying their luck in other states.

For months, immigrants have taken a wait-and-see attitude toward the state's new employer-sanctions law, which takes effect January 1. The voter-approved legislation is an attempt to lessen the economic incentive for illegal immigrants in Arizona, the busiest crossing point along the U.S.-Mexico border.

And by all appearances, it's starting to work.

This might be why Senator John Mccain is only three points away from the front runner Rommey in NH ...

I wish America would go after the illegal's with money to help pay for the deportation on the men and women that cross the border for purposes of feeding their family by sending as much back to Mexico for the families they left behind as they can.

This can be calculated by the Fed's just track all the US Postal money orders that get cashed South of the Border.

Lets face it we need the workers Mexico provides ... we just have to figure out a way for their employers to pay their fair share of taxes ... no social security card no pay is what I say.

[Iceman]

One word...one reason...

JOE...

We my wife and I love him...so do many many others...if he ever runs for governor he'll win hands down.

Messages from the Sheriff
12-23-2007Greetings from Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio, the elected Sheriff of the 6th largest county in America. Bigger than the state of New Jersey, Maricopa County covers nearly 9,200 square miles and is home to the state capital, Phoenix, and to 3.8 million citizens. We are called “The Valley of the Sun” and we are a vibrant southwestern U.S. metropolis which is currently experiencing a population growth rate second to none in the nation. The tremendous growth in our county has caused my organization to increase in size nearly 100 percent in the 15 years since I was first elected into the Office of the Sheriff. Today, the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office has nearly 4,000 employees, 3,000 volunteer posse members and 10,000 inmates.
I have been in law enforcement for over 47 years now. It is the life I chose and the life I love. Hard work and good fortune have led me to positions across the globe. I served as a regional director with the United States Federal Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) in the Middle East, Turkey, Mexico and Central and South America. I retired with the DEA as its Director in Arizona.
It was a career filled with many positive and challenging experiences for me, my wife of nearly 50 years now and my two children. However, looking back, I can honestly say that nothing can compare with being an elected Sheriff of a large county like this.
Per our state constitution, the elected Sheriff is the chief law enforcement official of the county. As such, I report directly and only to the citizens who I serve. Because I am elected, I have the freedom to represent the will of the people without the burdensome constraints of bureaucracy and politics. Since my election into office in 1992, I have been dedicated to the oath I took to protect and serve the citizens.
Once elected, approval by his constituents gives a Sheriff the ability to apply his or her own distinct philosophy about right and wrong.
My approval numbers here in Arizona have constantly hovered around the 75 – 85% range which allows me to establish with confidence, innovative programs to benefit the community, inmates, and their families.

My enforcement and jail program philosophies are all geared to be tough on crime and those who commit crime. Overall, it is my belief that a person who commits a crime should be held accountable and face the consequences of their actions. In direct terms, they should receive just punishment for their lack of responsibility and discipline. Specifically in the county jail system which I manage, it is my belief that inmates should never live better behind bars than the outside in free society. Therefore I maintain an austere system with no frills and have implemented programs to curtail recidivism.
My programs include lessons specifically designed to develop, educate, train, and increase the self-esteem of the men and women who have entered the criminal justice system as a result of abuse including physical, emotional and chemical (drugs). Some of the programs that focus on women inmates include the female chain gang, Animal Safe Hospice (a no kill shelter for abused pets run and maintained by female inmates), Girls Scouts Beyond Bars (a unique partnership between the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office and the Arizona Cactus-Pine Girl Scout Council bringing incarcerated mothers and their young daughters, together in a Girl Scout Troop setting in jail). Activities in this particular program focus on character and self-esteem building through various social activities to educate and develop leadership skills. The program was originally developed by the National Institute of Justice (NIJ), and ours is the first jail in the country to implement this model.
We also have a “Read to Me Mommy” literacy aide program, Better Parenting Skills classes, Women Healing Ever New or “WHEN” – (designed to break the cycle of criminal behavior), and Developing Individual Growth and New Independence Through Yourself or “DIGNITY” – a specific program designed to help prostitutes overcome their destructive lifestyles choices.
I also have inmates who volunteer for chain gang duty. Men and women serve on chain gangs performing community service by cleaning roadways and parks. It is my belief that keeping our communities clean is a worthwhile task for inmate chain gangs and inmate work details to perform. Where there is opportunity to pitch-in and clean up, they do. Massive cleanup operations using this free heavy labor are the norm for this Sheriff's Office.

In my enforcement authority, I have dedicated a unit of deputies and resources to round up and hunt down “Dead Beat Parents” – those with outstanding warrants for not complying with their court ordered child support payments. I mobilize my volunteer posse to patrol the major shopping areas during the holiday season to keep shoppers safe from thugs. I have a specialized unit of deputies to fight the surge of illegal immigrants coming into this county and have put hundreds of illegals in jail for breaking the law of illegally entering the United States. I also routinely conduct operations aimed at underage tobacco and alcohol sales. And I have specialized deputies who investigate animal neglect and cruelty cases and take the offenders to jail. I am always seeking ways to use my elected position as Maricopa County Sheriff to further benefit all members of this community - young and old, rich and poor, two legged and four.
I am referred to as “The Toughest Sheriff in America.” That’s fine but I like to think of myself and my employees as some of the most forward thinking law enforcement professionals in the industry. We do a lot of good things here in Maricopa County and many of them are cutting edge. And while I do enjoy a high approval rating by the citizens who reside here, being free to think and act “outside of the box” which being elected allows me to do, can sometimes draw criticism. That’s ok. After 15 years as Sheriff and with several more years ahead of me (I hope), I would rather be criticized for doing what I think is right for this community than playing politics simply by playing it safe.

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by NEON DEON

Maybe the U.S. should just annex Mexico.

Mexico has annexed California, for all intents and purposes. Im a foreign national here. My fondest dream, is that someday i will be return to the United States.

[geetrue]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Mexico has annexed California, for all intents and purposes. Im a foreign national here. My fondest dream, is that someday i will be return to the United States.

Santa Barbra will become the new cut off for Southern California ...

With a new border crossing even ...

[elite_hunter_sh3]

now if the federal government and all the other states decided to think like arizona... instant drop in crime and a massive multi billion dollar drop in social security drain on the already FUBAR American federal reserve...