Medieval 2 Total war

[SmokinTep]

I'm looking forward to the Naval Battles.

[Janus]

Who else finds the strategic maps of Shogun and Medieval Total War better than the one that was introduced in Rome?
Both types have their pros and cons, but there is something about the MTW map with its predefined provinces that makes me like it more. For example I've just came out of a 15 or 20 year war with the Turks against Byzantinum always fighting in the same 2 provinces to thin down my border. I finally had 2 good battles in a row where I managed to kill the 7 star King of the enemy and wiping out 3 big army stacks of him.
The door to Constantinople is open now, but I need a bit of consolidation before pushing further.

[Shyzar]

The one thing I don't like about M2TW is that some of the factions aren't balanced well. I tryed playing France for my first game as per reccomendation and by 1150. I was dragged into a 7 front war, with 10 enemy factions . I was quickly decimated.

My current Campaign is with England and I own 51 regions. In 1250, I own pretty much all of Europe. I was an ally with the Moors for 150 years (I changed the turns to be 1 year each), I gave them hundreds of thousands of florins, then just recently when I took a Spanish town in Africa they attacked. I am now exterminating them; normally I cannot force myself to do this, But after that long a friendship...

[stabiz]

Originally Posted by Shyzar

The one thing I don't like about M2TW is that some of the factions aren't balanced well. I tryed playing France for my first game as per reccomendation and by 1150. I was dragged into a 7 front war, with 10 enemy factions . I was quickly decimated.

My current Campaign is with England and I own 51 regions. In 1250, I own pretty much all of Europe. I was an ally with the Moors for 150 years (I changed the turns to be 1 year each), I gave them hundreds of thousands of florins, then just recently when I took a Spanish town in Africa they attacked. I am now exterminating them; normally I cannot force myself to do this, But after that long a friendship...

I am France right now, and own all of the french regions (thanks to alliances with England and HRE) and have recently taken over all of Spain after pushing the Moors back to Africa. In the Stainless Steel-mod the alliances really are alliances, which is nice. No backstabbing, or at least very little. I hava a mighty armada with elite units on the way to the holy land to kick some serious Golden Horde-butt. Holy War ftw!

Oh, and the pope loves me! Its just mega-rewarding to get problems with a nation, whisper something in the the popes ear, and have the entire Christian world crusading them to oblivion.:rotfl:

The Moors were giving me headaches in southern Spain, so I requested a crusade on Tunis. My God, there were English, Roman and Danish stacks all over those poor bastards.

Great game.

Next up I am playing the Teutonic order. (Yes, in Stainless Steel the factions from Kingdoms are in the Grand Campaign)

[Rotary Crewman]

Currently England, sitting pretty on the British isles with all my towns being cities rather than castles. Money is flooding in! My three castles are on the Normandy coast just pumping out army after army and piling them into boats for a full scale assault in the holy land.

The pope liked me, then the Portuguese (AGAIN) came and attacked Wales. They took it as it had a garrison of around 4 troops. So I gathered one of my huge armies from Normandy and obliterated them! Now the pope hates me (How the crap does that work?). Anyway, still going strong, Portuguese are just being annoying.

Great game, not even touched Kingdoms yet. Would like to do something good on this first before I progress.

[stabiz]

The pope hates you if you attack other Christian factions that are not excommunicated. If they attack you he hates them too. Try to get high ranking priests and then they hopefully will become preferati, and if you get a pope of your own you can use crusades as a weapon.

[Rotary Crewman]

Yeah I have cardinals all over Europe eradicating the hieratic ways, hopefully I'll make Pope one day and then the Portuguese will feel my wrath

[Shyzar]

Originally Posted by stabiz

In the Stainless Steel-mod the alliances really are alliances, which is nice. No backstabbing, or at least very little.

That is another thing I don't like. The AI always backstabs me, Especially Milan. I've learned to decimate Milan first. But another odd thing is my reputation is decietful. I've only started one war with Spain to give aid to the Moors (traitors ) and I didn't use espionage until my reputation got to "untrustworthy" at which point I stopped caring about it.

[stabiz]

Yeah, vanilla is a backstabbing-fest. It often makes no sense either. They will come and ask for trade rights and an alliance, and attack the next turn. Modders have fixed this, thankfully.

BTW: I got a taste of the Golden Horde`s rocket launcher earlier today. Nasty.

[Shyzar]

I just got attacked by the Mongols and lost one town with 10000 population (those poor souls ) but the thing that annoys me is they stay too close too each other (the armies) I did manage to kill there faction leader and destroy 2 of their stacks. After that they went East out of sight. I hope they're in Russia (Russia attacked me after I refused an Alliance deal where I had to pay to be an ally with a "pathetic" faction).

[Shyzar]

Originally Posted by SmokinTep

I'm looking forward to the Naval Battles.

That's probably the part I'm most looking forward to.

But I hope that is not rated M. Because I am only 14 and my parents seem to believe that if I play M rated games I will become evil and violent

[sparkomatic]

I liked the original Shogun Total War also, rarely cover period and well done. The graphics might feel a bit dated (especially after you played MTW2) but worth the time, IMHO.