attention! patch compability

WernerSobe · 11-29-07, 11:13 PM

Just an appeal to all modders.

if a modification is working on patched game it isnt necessarily compatible. Old mods are based on old (unpatched) files. In order to make your modification fully compatible, it is criticaly required to take the new (patched) files and make same changes.

example... they have extended the horizon to 20km. Now if you take an old mod that altered the same file - youre patching it back to 1.3 version of that file so the new feature wont be in.

WernerSobe · 11-29-07, 11:20 PM

for those who are not sure which files are affected by new patch - im running an md5 hash compare between both installations there will be a list soon.

Ducimus · 11-29-07, 11:23 PM

Cool. Im curious as to see if the results of your approach will differ from this one:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=125838

Since i plan on posting Soon (

), any check would be an added peace of mind.

WernerSobe · 11-30-07, 12:18 AM

hm my list is shorter. This is md5 hash comparison.

Quote:

MD5 hash checksum comparison
SH4 version 1.3 / SH4 version 1.4

Checksum did not match in:

Data\Campaigns\Campaign\US_NavalBases.mis
Data\Cfg\Sim.cfg
Data\Interior\CaptainRoom\CaptainRoom.dat
Data\Interior\CaptainRoom\CaptainRoom.sim
Data\Interior\NSS_Gato\NSS_Gato_CT.dat
Data\Interior\NSS_Gato\NSS_Gato_CT.sim
Data\Interior\NSS_Porpoise\NSS_Porpoise_CR.sim
Data\Interior\NSS_Porpoise\NSS_Porpoise_CT.dat
Data\Interior\NSS_Porpoise\NSS_Porpoise_CT.sim
Data\Interior\NSS_Salmon\NSS_Salmon_CR.sim
Data\Interior\NSS_Salmon\NSS_Salmon_CT.dat
Data\Interior\NSS_Salmon\NSS_Salmon_CT.sim
Data\Interior\NSS_SClass\NSS_Sclass_CR.dat
Data\Interior\NSS_SClass\NSS_Sclass_CR.sim
Data\Library\Cameras.dat
Data\Menu\menu.txt
Data\Menu\menu_1024_768.ini
Data\Sea\NATF\NATF.dat
Data\Sea\NKSCS_Taihosan\NKSCS_Taihosan.dat
Data\Sea\NKSCS_Taihosan\NKSCS_Taihosan.sim
Data\Shaders\InteriorIllumination\HighlightColorPS .fx
Data\Shaders\InteriorIllumination\HighlightColorVS .fx
Data\Shaders\Water\waterTranspNoWakesPS.fx
Data\Shaders\Water\waterTranspPS.fx
Data\Submarine\NSS_Balao\NSS_Balao.sns
Data\Submarine\NSS_Gar\NSS_Gar.sns
Data\Submarine\NSS_Gato\NSS_Gato.sns
Data\Submarine\NSS_Porpoise\NSS_Porpoise.sns
Data\Submarine\NSS_s18\NSS_S18.sns
Data\Submarine\NSS_s42\NSS_S42.sns
Data\Submarine\NSS_Salmon\NSS_Salmon.sns
Data\Submarine\NSS_Sargo\NSS_Sargo.sns
Data\Submarine\NSS_Tambor\NSS_Tambor.sns
Data\UPCData\UPCCampaignData\CareerStart.upc
Data\Zones.cfg
Support\readme.txt
anim.act
BezierWaypoint.act
CameraBehavior.act
CameraManager.act
DrawLib.dll
EffectManagers.act
EnvSim.act
EventCamera.act
FileManager.dll
Kernel.dll
LipsSync.act
LowLevelUtils.dll
MessageNet.dll
MissionEngine.dll
movietex.act
Multiplayer.act
Particles.act
PostEffects.act
property.dll
sh4.exe
Sh4MissionEditor.exe
SHCollisions.act
SHControllers.act
SHSim.act
SHSound.act
SHZoneEditor.act
SimData.dll
Sound.act
SoundEdit.act
StateMachineCtl.act
Utils.dll

Ducimus · 11-30-07, 01:30 AM

Thank you sir! It's always good to have multiple lists of patch changes, one double checks the other, which means we don't overlook anything!

CCIP · 11-30-07, 01:40 AM

Aha, finally I see a list.

Looks pretty much like what I expected. The zones, submarine files, menu and perhaps cameras are the priority updates here then.

tater · 11-30-07, 01:51 AM

Odd taihosan's zon wasn't changed, the zon is the source of the CTD.

tater

WernerSobe · 11-30-07, 02:19 AM

i think ctd was in .dat

tater · 11-30-07, 02:33 AM

My second taihosan maru mod worked, and it was just the zon. I tried all 3 alone, and it only stopped the CTD with the zon.

elanaiba · 11-30-07, 03:50 AM

Does it still crash then? I think we solved it through different hierarchy in the dat...

11-29-07, 11:13 PM	#1
WernerSobe Commodore Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 625 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	attention! patch compability Just an appeal to all modders. if a modification is working on patched game it isnt necessarily compatible. Old mods are based on old (unpatched) files. In order to make your modification fully compatible, it is criticaly required to take the new (patched) files and make same changes. example... they have extended the horizon to 20km. Now if you take an old mod that altered the same file - youre patching it back to 1.3 version of that file so the new feature wont be in.

11-29-07, 11:23 PM	#3
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	Cool. Im curious as to see if the results of your approach will differ from this one: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=125838 Since i plan on posting Soon (), any check would be an added peace of mind.

11-30-07, 01:40 AM	#6
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Aha, finally I see a list. Looks pretty much like what I expected. The zones, submarine files, menu and perhaps cameras are the priority updates here then. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

11-30-07, 03:50 AM	#10
elanaiba Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bucharest, Romania Posts: 1,058 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 3	Does it still crash then? I think we solved it through different hierarchy in the dat... __________________ With strength I burn...

11-29-07, 11:20 PM	#2
WernerSobe Commodore Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 625 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	for those who are not sure which files are affected by new patch - im running an md5 hash compare between both installations there will be a list soon.

11-30-07, 01:30 AM	#5
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	Thank you sir! It's always good to have multiple lists of patch changes, one double checks the other, which means we don't overlook anything!

11-30-07, 01:51 AM	#7
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Odd taihosan's zon wasn't changed, the zon is the source of the CTD. tater

11-30-07, 02:19 AM	#8
WernerSobe Commodore Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 625 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	i think ctd was in .dat

11-30-07, 02:33 AM	#9
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	My second taihosan maru mod worked, and it was just the zon. I tried all 3 alone, and it only stopped the CTD with the zon.