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Old 11-29-07, 06:44 AM   #10
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isn't it once you reach the path of wellbeing you no longer are reborn - you have reach the higher plane - perfection? How come he keeps getting reborn then.
Apperantly he does it on purpose out of compassion for those who are stuck in re-birth
in order to help us exscape.
Guys, one advise: do not worry about such things, it only makes your mind go crazy. Live your lifes, try not to intentionally do harm, help others, don't focus on yourself. that is of more worth than a thousand theories about reincarnation, Bodhisattvas, and Nirvana. The more you have in your heads, the farther you are away from what you are "searching" for. Nobody needs to go anywhere. You know how it is with the balance and solid stand if the centre of gravity is moved upwards.
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He was so peaceful that he abandoned his people. Thats not leadership, its cowardice.

You do realise he'd be dead if he stayed. It's hard to be a spiritual leader when your locked in a Chinese prison. (so i've heard )
On the man, he was urged by his advisors to finally flee after several years of Chinese occupation already had taken place, to escape being caught by the Chinese, and live on in exile as an unmanipulated representative for the Tibetan's cause. If somebody thinks that is cowardice and that he should have stayed, maybe even "fought", than he only illustrates how little he knows about Buddhism in general, and about the Dalai Lama's biography in special. He also does not know about the Chinese attempt to manipulate the Kagyu lineage by not letting them find their new leader (called Karmapa) themselves, but manipulating a chinese puppet and installing it as Peking's placeholder (that's why their are two karmapas now, one chinese imposter, and one a majority of the Tibetans follow), and that they intend to do the same with the Gelupa lineage and the Dalai Lama. they were unfortunately successful in causing rifgts, violance, confusion, and a general desintegration of the tibetan'c community, so the chinese tactic is dangerous indeed and directly aims at completing the ethnic cleansing of theirs.

And finally, from the Tibetan's perspective, violating their philosophy and start a fight against the Chinese would cause bad karma for all, for themselves and for the Chinese. For reasons of compassion, most Tibetan authorities, if not all, speak against that.

I wonder why Christians seeing themselves in the following of Jesus do not feel reminded of what Jesus taught. He also did not call for fighting and resisting. He said the opposite, in fact.

as a matter of fact, all world nations leave the Tibetan'S alone, rate their shortterm business interests as higher than deciding for the ethical correct choice to isolate the chinese, and turn a blind eye on the injustice the chinese brought onto the Tibetans of whom thy already have massacred over one million. In this light one maybe should remain silent about accusing their leaders of cowardice and "abandoning their people". Such arrogant self-righteousness is not appropriate in this situation.
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