Accumulating Renound

[Nerazzurri]

Originally Posted by Hakahura

The other thing to bear in mind about renown is realism.

Seems to me that when I first started playing the game, at lower levels of realism, my renown per patrol was much lower than it is now. Regardless of of the amount of ships sunk.

If I had to guess I would agree that each ship has a certain amount of renown attached to it, but, the game rewards you a percentage of that renown in relation to the realism settings you have selected for that career.

Lifted from the community manual -

Renown and Realism

The renown you receive for sinking enemy ships is also affected by your Realism %. You will earn more renown for playing at a higher Realism %.
The formula for calculating renown (http://www.subsim.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=36293), per ship, is:
base ship renown value (see below) * ( (0.75 * realism %) + 0.25 ).Therefore, At 100% realism, you will receive full renown credit for every ship that you sink and at 0% realism, you will receive 25% of the renown credit for every ship.

[Jonathan]

Wow...I am learning so much from reading this thread...and this encourages me to ramp the realism level up. Currently, I am operating at either 27% or 35%...I might try moving on up to 50%-60%...I am so worred about 'dud' torpedoes...

[GoldenRivet]

Jonathan

Im surprised by your east coast experience... how did he locate you?

As a general rule on those realism settings when a destroyer is sighted or warship detected you want to slow to either ahead slow or all stop, rig for silent running by pressing the "Z" key and wait for the destroyer to leave the area. go deeper if possible.

just out of curiosity - what did you do when the destroyer was detected?

sounds like your situation should have been survivable - especially in stock.

Loading a save would not be considered "cheap" as you put it, especially if you are still in the stages of learning to play the game really well.

[Jonathan]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

Jonathan

Im surprised by your east coast experience... how did he locate you?

As a general rule on those realism settings when a destroyer is sighted or warship detected you want to slow to either ahead slow or all stop, rig for silent running by pressing the "Z" key and wait for the destroyer to leave the area. go deeper if possible.

just out of curiosity - what did you do when the destroyer was detected?

sounds like your situation should have been survivable - especially in stock.

Loading a save would not be considered "cheap" as you put it, especially if you are still in the stages of learning to play the game really well.

I never got the "We've been detected sir" message. I went pretty far into the bay by the Filrth place, but I did not go THAT far into it. My watchmen up top sighted two ships...one was a V&W Destroyer and another was a fishing boat. I let the fishing boat alone and dropped to 10 meters depth. I had my sonarman track the V&W. Since it was the middle of the night, I went ahead and surfaced again to try and outrun it. Apparently, this was probably my un-doing as it saw me from afar with its light. I dove again to 25m only to hit the bottom kind of hard at 20m. I of course was running silent at this time and I just sayed there on the bottom not accelerating at all. I saw the ship's bow run right above my ship and he dropped a perfect line of depth charges...two direct hits on either side. I watched my ship literally flail in the water like a dead-fish. I tried to secure from running silent and start repairs, but nothing was doing. I ordered blow-ballasts, and the front or back end of my ship began to rise, but the other end remained at the bottom, too heavy due to flooding to rise up. I am sure the crew inside was realing every which way as I tried to accelerate out in some sort of last ditch effort to save the lives of my crew. It was to no avail...and the end came swiftly.

[GoldenRivet]

i think even in stock going into those areas is pretty risky, try to follow the coast line, but stay about 80 to 100 KM off coast.

you would be likely to connect with a lone merchant steaming out of norway for the Brit coast.

If you select your navigator and choose the icon for depth under keel he will report how deep the water is, try to stay out of areas where the water is shallow, trapping yourself in 30 meter waters yields no options other than to run... and if you do that the destroyer will know exactly where you are.

next thing i would do is transfer to a VII as soon as possible.

good luck out there... reload and try again

[Borgneface]

S! Kaleun,
Here is an extract from a .pdf file i have in store on GWX renown; i do not know on which level of realism it is based...but it could a good guide:

MERCHANTS
Passenger Liner =870
Large Old Liner =780
Large Merchant = 530
Heavy Transport =420
Whale Factory Ship =390
Troop Transport =390
Pyro Ammunition Ship =370
Large Tanker =340
T3 Tanker =340
Depot Ship/NSD =330
Medium Tanker =320
Passenger Liner/NCHT=300
Medium Tanker (generic) =270
Large Cargo =240
Victory Cargo =230
Depot Ship/NDS=230
Liberty Cargo =220
Ore Carrier=220
Landing Ship Tank =220
Medium Merchant =190
Small Tanker =125
Small Merchant =90
Small Merchant =70
BPS russian escort ship =70
Tramp Steamer =60
Lake Ship =55
Vorpostenboot =40
Coastal Tanker =40
Trawler =40
Tug Boat =30
Small Junk=30
Medium Junk=30
Sloop =30
Schooner =30
Navigational Light Ship=25
RAF Air Sea Rescue =20
Italian torpedo boat (MAS) = 20
Fishing Boat =20
Fishing Boat 1=20
Fishing Boat 2=20
Fishing Boat 3=20
NF_boat=20
Hospital Ship = -1000
Passenger/Cargo =-10000
=======================

hope it helps.

[GoldenRivet]

sweet... is it the same for stock? i dont think it is.

[Borgneface]

S! GoldenRivet,
I really do not know for the Stock game.......The only other info I have is the renown in GWX for Warships!
If you are interested...i'll post those too...

Amicalement.

[GoldenRivet]

makes me no difference, but i think that someone in this thread was needing stock.

thanks for locating that GWX info though!

[Jonathan]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

i think even in stock going into those areas is pretty risky, try to follow the coast line, but stay about 80 to 100 KM off coast.

you would be likely to connect with a lone merchant steaming out of norway for the Brit coast.

If you select your navigator and choose the icon for depth under keel he will report how deep the water is, try to stay out of areas where the water is shallow, trapping yourself in 30 meter waters yields no options other than to run... and if you do that the destroyer will know exactly where you are.

next thing i would do is transfer to a VII as soon as possible.

good luck out there... reload and try again

Right now my ship and my crew rest on the bottom, 20,000 centimeters under the sea. I should have checked the depth before I dive...but I just was not thinking clearly. I panicked under the pressure...and I paid dearly for it.

I am no Kaluen! *throws war ship badge across the room*

j/k...I will try again when I get home.

[GoldenRivet]

not your fault - blame it on Bernard... :rotfl:

[Jonathan]

Who is this Bernard character that I have hear a little about?

[Manucubus]

...i decided to leave the destroyers alone. I shoot them with electric eels (no trances) only when i have a good shooting position, otherwise i stay quiet and deep and concentrate on the convoy and then dive fast and try to sneak away.
Destroyers are dangerous, hard to hit and dont give you much renown. Use your torpedoes for merchants/tankers.
Background is that i play "Dead is Dead" i.e. when i die i dont load a saved game but start a new career. This makes you act very very careful and teaches you to keep your fingers off destroyers - although i like to shoot at battleships in a convoy

[GoldenRivet]

Bernard is the guy who everyone blames for every bad thing that happens on the u-boat.

did you order a crash dive only to realize your in 20 meters of water? blame bernard

did you order ahead flank out of the dock only to suddenly crash into a concrete barrier? blame bernard

just spend two hours of game play stalking a convoy and setting up the perfect firing position and order the shots to be fired only to realize you have already used your last torpedo three days ago??? blame bernard

you get the idea.

[Jonathan]

BERNARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

haha...I might name my dog Bernard.