[REL] Completely new recognition manual

tater · 11-26-07, 12:01 PM

I might have a crack at new pages at some point. I'm thinking I need to use Streamline to change the line art I have to vector so I can have them be clean.

I had also planned on dumping the various "extra" views of merchants entirely, they simply didn't exist in RL. You got an elevation line drawing, and maybe a plan view and a picture.

This is typical:

Note the "B" under the scale bars. That indicates that the data shown is just "OK." "A" would be it's very reliable. "C" would mean that aside from any photos, it's a total guess.

Most merhants have a "C" next to them in ONI 208-J.

FooFighters · 11-26-07, 01:30 PM

That would look pretty cool Tater

mrbeast · 11-26-07, 02:01 PM

Would it be possible to include a screen shot, suitably enhanced and in black and white, as the photo refference?

Or even better RL photos of the SH4 ships, that is the ships that SH based its models on, if suitable ones exist?

FooFighters · 11-26-07, 02:26 PM

Back to the drawing board..

I was stupid enough to not test in a carreer

CTD and CTD's..

fireship4 · 11-26-07, 02:29 PM

FooFighters, why dont you get together with Tater? I'm sure together you could pull of something outstanding, and it seems pointless to have two people working on the same thing separately. Of course If this happens I demand 10% cut of all profits as your new agent.

Cheers for the link, I will test if I can.

[Edited because I said Ducimus instead of Tater!]

FooFighters · 11-26-07, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fireship4

FooFighters, why dont you get together with Ducimus? I'm sure together you could pull of something outstanding, and it seems pointless to have two people working on the same thing separately. Of course If this happens I demand 10% cut of all profits as your new agent.

Cheers for the link, I will test if I can.

:rotfl: :rotfl:
I did not know Ducimus was also working on a manual :hmm:

tater · 11-26-07, 02:54 PM

Those are 2 I have done (I have many set up in the right way so far in work I was doing with WernerSobe).

The problem is the alpha channel to make them appear on the background properly.

fireship4 · 11-26-07, 03:06 PM

What sacrifices are you going to make in transferring the real recognition manual to the game? I suppose if size is a problem there may be a way of enlarging the Manual onscreen using the menu files?

OR you could go the really realistic route and do a printable manual, that would solve all size and night vision darkness problems, maybe use screenshots from the game instead of the photos, as well as diagrams.

Though I suppose you would still have to dip into the in-game manual to send the mast-height to TDC, but then again if you are working on the printable version only you could simply turn the in-game manual into a scrolling list of just big names on the pages instead of pictures - which you select from after you've picked from the printed manual. That would leave you time to red light the pages maybe.

11-26-07, 01:30 PM	#2
FooFighters Grey Wolf Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 813 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	That would look pretty cool Tater __________________ This forum is not the same without you Dave.. we'll miss you buddy

11-26-07, 02:01 PM	#3
mrbeast Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bolton, UK Posts: 1,236 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Would it be possible to include a screen shot, suitably enhanced and in black and white, as the photo refference? Or even better RL photos of the SH4 ships, that is the ships that SH based its models on, if suitable ones exist? __________________

11-26-07, 02:26 PM	#4
FooFighters Grey Wolf Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 813 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	Back to the drawing board.. I was stupid enough to not test in a carreer CTD and CTD's.. __________________ This forum is not the same without you Dave.. we'll miss you buddy

11-26-07, 02:29 PM	#5
fireship4 Ensign Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 221 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 0	FooFighters, why dont you get together with Tater? I'm sure together you could pull of something outstanding, and it seems pointless to have two people working on the same thing separately. Of course If this happens I demand 10% cut of all profits as your new agent. Cheers for the link, I will test if I can. [Edited because I said Ducimus instead of Tater!] __________________ Rest in peace Dave Last edited by fireship4; 11-26-07 at 03:00 PM.

11-26-07, 03:06 PM	#8
fireship4 Ensign Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 221 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 0	What sacrifices are you going to make in transferring the real recognition manual to the game? I suppose if size is a problem there may be a way of enlarging the Manual onscreen using the menu files? OR you could go the really realistic route and do a printable manual, that would solve all size and night vision darkness problems, maybe use screenshots from the game instead of the photos, as well as diagrams. Though I suppose you would still have to dip into the in-game manual to send the mast-height to TDC, but then again if you are working on the printable version only you could simply turn the in-game manual into a scrolling list of just big names on the pages instead of pictures - which you select from after you've picked from the printed manual. That would leave you time to red light the pages maybe. __________________ Rest in peace Dave

11-26-07, 12:01 PM	#1
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	I might have a crack at new pages at some point. I'm thinking I need to use Streamline to change the line art I have to vector so I can have them be clean. I had also planned on dumping the various "extra" views of merchants entirely, they simply didn't exist in RL. You got an elevation line drawing, and maybe a plan view and a picture. This is typical: Note the "B" under the scale bars. That indicates that the data shown is just "OK." "A" would be it's very reliable. "C" would mean that aside from any photos, it's a total guess. Most merhants have a "C" next to them in ONI 208-J.

11-26-07, 02:54 PM	#7
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Those are 2 I have done (I have many set up in the right way so far in work I was doing with WernerSobe). The problem is the alpha channel to make them appear on the background properly.