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Old 11-24-07, 12:50 AM   #1
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Default max depth of jap's depth charg is 90m???

So if this,with gato and balao calass i am undestracteble submarine for japs naval forces? couse gato have about 124m and balao 155m max operation depth
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Old 11-24-07, 12:56 AM   #2
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Japanese depth charges go off a lot deeper than 90m. At least in the sim they do.
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Old 11-24-07, 01:49 AM   #3
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:hmm: And what max depth for jap's depthcharges???
As i know max depth for british and usa was 150m in real world.....
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Old 11-24-07, 05:10 AM   #4
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So if this,with gato and balao calass i am undestracteble submarine for japs naval forces? couse gato have about 124m and balao 155m max operation depth
Not if you're in shallow waters...
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Old 11-24-07, 06:05 AM   #5
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So if this,with gato and balao calass i am undestracteble submarine for japs naval forces? couse gato have about 124m and balao 155m max operation depth
Not if you want to come up to fire torpedos...
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Old 11-24-07, 07:15 AM   #6
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So it is true about 90m or no?if yes why so many submarines was lost at ww2 by usa at jap theater if thay can simply go to the depth and be undestracteble???
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Old 11-24-07, 07:50 AM   #7
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So it is true about 90m or no?if yes why so many submarines was lost at ww2 by usa at jap theater if thay can simply go to the depth and be undestracteble???
I'm sure it wasn't that simple...

Lets take the Gato, the page I'm looking at now says rated diving depth is 300ft. 90m (the max depth you claim japanese depth charges capable of) is 295ft. Now lets imagine that even 'if' the sub commander had the balls and was comfortable to stay at the rated max depth of his sub, it still only gives him 5ft of breathing space. Whats the blast radius of these depth charges? More than 5ft I'll wager. Also, it would have taken time to get to 300ft. The destroyer may well have positioned above you and had it's depth charges in the water while your still descending.

Oh, and don't forget a lot of subs in service at the start of the war were inferior to the Gato.
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Old 11-24-07, 08:33 AM   #8
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Ok. i understend,but in game when i play gato submarine i always order my submarine go to 124 meters and feel comfortable at this depth and even can stay at this depth a whole day and nothen bed will happend and can be same with balao but depth is 163 and all fine,of couse the situation can be different if play agains german their depth charges go up to 150 meters...so in fakt that in game i never was destroyed at 124meters it's bug or not i don't know....
i play full realism with mod'' Real Fleat Boat'' and some othe small mods....
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Old 11-24-07, 08:47 AM   #9
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Ok. i understend,but in game when i play gato submarine i always order my submarine go to 124 meters and feel comfortable at this depth and even can stay at this depth a whole day and nothen bed will happend and can be same with balao but depth is 163 and all fine,of couse the situation can be different if play agains german their depth charges go up to 150 meters...so in fakt that in game i never was destroyed at 124meters it's bug or not i don't know....
i play full realism with mod'' Real Fleat Boat'' and some othe small mods....
You're comfortable because you're not going to die when the sub implodes. We don't play with those meter thingies anyway. They're products of a conspiracy of evil European automobile manufacturers. :rotfl:Would you believe evil Norse fishermen? How about two very drunk French guys in a bar?
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You're comfortable because you're not going to die when the sub implodes.
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We don't play with those meter thingies anyway. They're products of a conspiracy of evil European automobile manufacturers. :rotfl:Would you believe evil Norse fishermen? How about two very drunk French guys in a bar?
You're living in the past (ie. Englands victorian era)... we have seen the way forward... maybe you guys across the water will to in time.

How can '1 mile = (err...) 1760yrds' possibly compare to '1km = 1000m'. The metric system is just SO neat and tidy.
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Old 11-24-07, 10:15 AM   #11
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The Japanese started setting their depth charges to explode below 90 meters sometime in mid 1943. The allied depth charges later in the water could be set to explode at depths of up to 300 meters later in the war, if I remember right.
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Old 11-24-07, 10:37 AM   #12
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I forget the details, but i can say for certain that orginally the japs set the charges shallow. Then some senator said something to the press about the effectiveness of our boats and let slip that they could go deeper then the japs could DC. Shortly after that the japs set the depth charges deeper.
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Subnuts and Ducimus both hit it right on with what they said. Also Rockin Robbins said it perfectly. In this game I'm not scared to stay down deep for long periods of time either but that's because I know that if I die I can just go down stairs, grab a soda and something to eat and them come back up to the computer and start another career.
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Wow, nice history lesson. Democrats, giving away secrets, and corruption go way back, LOL.
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