Making the Alanger Project 971

Kapitan · 11-18-07, 03:38 PM

I have one of these good kits however they are not so good falling from your shelf to the floor then having your 19 stone dad stand on it.

Nether the less it lasted a year !

Chock · 11-18-07, 11:47 PM

Well, there's the answer for the US Navy's hunter killers then, just give your dad a call:rotfl:

Update: Further investigation reveals that the sail problems are manifest. The front faired-in angle is too steep on the sail in the kit, and the rear slope of the sail sweeps down incorrectly, starting in the wrong place and being too severe rather than emulating the graceful curve of the real thing. This can be seen on the composite comparison shot below; even though the shot angles differ, the error is still apparent, as is the wildly inaccurate and oversized door placement for the masts and the incorrect placement of the cockpit:

So, it was out with the scalpel and needle files to remove it all! Thus, filling it all in and re-drilling the location holes for the masts is on the cards, as is constructing the cockpit more accurately with the correct windscreens, but before that, I'll have to reprofile the sail, which should be possible with filler and some more comparisons with photographs and schematic drawings. Picture of the crappy detail having been removed:

Chock

HunterICX · 11-19-07, 05:55 AM

Good luck, chock.

thats going to be a hell of a task to do.

HunterICX

Kapitan · 11-19-07, 07:25 AM

Yeah good luck with it and hope your one lasts longer than mine, my bed room at the moment looks like a russian naval shipyard i have models half finnished with bits here and there and other models worse for wear lol.

Good luck!

Chock · 11-19-07, 09:13 PM

Another quick update:

All vent holes on the upper hull drilled out and filed square (ish), still need a little tidying but reasonably close to looking okay. I also started the correction to the forward part of sail and filled in all the incorrect placement holes, this is probably going to take two or three stages to be really satisfactory, and it's always a temptation to try and sort it all in one go, but, I restrained myself and settled for a rough profile. When that's hardened off, a little sanding should make it apparent what needs to be done to get it more like the correct profile:

Chock

nikimcbee · 11-20-07, 01:03 AM

More reference stuff:
http://submarine.id.ru/thumbs/971/index.shtml

have fun

Chock · 11-20-07, 01:32 AM

Thanks for posting the link

I have already got most of those shots, but there were one or two that I haven't seen, so it's appreciated. Incidentally, most of them reveal a lot more detail if your drop the darker tones with the curves palette in Photoshop, which is good for getting panel location info.

Chock

11-18-07, 03:38 PM	#1
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,130 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	I have one of these good kits however they are not so good falling from your shelf to the floor then having your 19 stone dad stand on it. Nether the less it lasted a year ! __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

11-18-07, 11:47 PM	#2
Chock Sea Lord Join Date: May 2005 Location: Under a thermal layer in chilly Olde England Posts: 1,842 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Well, there's the answer for the US Navy's hunter killers then, just give your dad a call:rotfl: Update: Further investigation reveals that the sail problems are manifest. The front faired-in angle is too steep on the sail in the kit, and the rear slope of the sail sweeps down incorrectly, starting in the wrong place and being too severe rather than emulating the graceful curve of the real thing. This can be seen on the composite comparison shot below; even though the shot angles differ, the error is still apparent, as is the wildly inaccurate and oversized door placement for the masts and the incorrect placement of the cockpit: So, it was out with the scalpel and needle files to remove it all! Thus, filling it all in and re-drilling the location holes for the masts is on the cards, as is constructing the cockpit more accurately with the correct windscreens, but before that, I'll have to reprofile the sail, which should be possible with filler and some more comparisons with photographs and schematic drawings. Picture of the crappy detail having been removed: Chock __________________

11-19-07, 05:55 AM	#3
HunterICX Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2006 Location: Malaga, España Posts: 10,750 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Good luck, chock. thats going to be a hell of a task to do. HunterICX __________________

11-19-07, 07:25 AM	#4
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,130 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	Yeah good luck with it and hope your one lasts longer than mine, my bed room at the moment looks like a russian naval shipyard i have models half finnished with bits here and there and other models worse for wear lol. Good luck! __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

11-19-07, 09:13 PM	#5
Chock Sea Lord Join Date: May 2005 Location: Under a thermal layer in chilly Olde England Posts: 1,842 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Another quick update: All vent holes on the upper hull drilled out and filed square (ish), still need a little tidying but reasonably close to looking okay. I also started the correction to the forward part of sail and filled in all the incorrect placement holes, this is probably going to take two or three stages to be really satisfactory, and it's always a temptation to try and sort it all in one go, but, I restrained myself and settled for a rough profile. When that's hardened off, a little sanding should make it apparent what needs to be done to get it more like the correct profile: Chock __________________

11-20-07, 01:03 AM	#6
nikimcbee Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Patroling the Slot. Posts: 17,952 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	More reference stuff: http://submarine.id.ru/thumbs/971/index.shtml have fun __________________

11-20-07, 01:32 AM	#7
Chock Sea Lord Join Date: May 2005 Location: Under a thermal layer in chilly Olde England Posts: 1,842 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Thanks for posting the link I have already got most of those shots, but there were one or two that I haven't seen, so it's appreciated. Incidentally, most of them reveal a lot more detail if your drop the darker tones with the curves palette in Photoshop, which is good for getting panel location info. Chock __________________