Thinking of pulling the Trigger

brandtryan · 11-16-07, 10:09 AM

Well, I'm underway in my second patrol--this time to the Eastern China Sea. I'm not there yet--but I've already sunk a few merchant vessels with my deck gun and one torpedo. I haven't been "challenged" yet by any escorts, or even merchants changing their course, or zig-zagging. It is the beginning of the war--but it seems pretty darn easy to get tonnage--so I'm wondering if I've just been lucky so far--or if I need to "pull the trigger" on Trigger Maru--which, from what I can surmise, makes things a little more realistic, and more difficult. Or should I just try a few more patrols without it--and expect things to get harder?

I'm not an expert by any means! I do have some time in SH3, manually launch torpedos, no map updates, etc. Werner's (SP?) videos were a great help in getting me up and running with manual control in SH4.

I just don't want it to be TOO difficult lol, if I try Trigger Maru. :hmm:

EDIT: now I'm seeing another mod, Run Silent, Run Deep--and wondering if I should try that one?!

mookiemookie · 11-16-07, 10:41 AM

You could try it and see if you like it...what have you got to lose?

jazman · 11-16-07, 11:08 AM

Give TM a whirl. In stock the enemy ships are like a cicada invasion. You can't blink without finding more of them, so it's too easy to rack up the tonnage. I think TM incorporates some of Tater's campaign mod work, which reduces traffic. The RSRD mod is nice in that it tries to make the ship traffic much more realistic.

Someone recently summarized it nicely by saying that TM really improves the sub characteristics, and RSRD really improves the shipping characteristics, and we really need both together. I think someone is working on it this very minute.

brandtryan · 11-16-07, 12:44 PM

Thanks guys--I think I'll give RSRD a go

rrmelend · 11-16-07, 12:51 PM

Give RSRD. I also agree with mookiemookie, give TM and try. If you are really worried that TM will be too difficult for you right now than I would also suggest this: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=122023

It is a modified version of TM to make the AI not as strong/good as the official version of TM.

captiandon · 11-16-07, 01:17 PM

I have Run Silent Run deep with Real Fleet boat and Real Sinking Mechinics. Very good bunch when put togeather. Its realy hard to find ships all though I ran into a 13 ship convoy lastnight. I sunk one of them and Fired on another before the destroyers drove me deeper. Was in 280 ft water so I couldnt go to deep. I decided on attack run on them was enuff. I was happy with the one ship I did get.

11-16-07, 10:09 AM	#1
brandtryan Engineer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Indianapolis, United States Posts: 214 Downloads: 122 Uploads: 0	Thinking of pulling the Trigger Well, I'm underway in my second patrol--this time to the Eastern China Sea. I'm not there yet--but I've already sunk a few merchant vessels with my deck gun and one torpedo. I haven't been "challenged" yet by any escorts, or even merchants changing their course, or zig-zagging. It is the beginning of the war--but it seems pretty darn easy to get tonnage--so I'm wondering if I've just been lucky so far--or if I need to "pull the trigger" on Trigger Maru--which, from what I can surmise, makes things a little more realistic, and more difficult. Or should I just try a few more patrols without it--and expect things to get harder? I'm not an expert by any means! I do have some time in SH3, manually launch torpedos, no map updates, etc. Werner's (SP?) videos were a great help in getting me up and running with manual control in SH4. I just don't want it to be TOO difficult lol, if I try Trigger Maru. :hmm: EDIT: now I'm seeing another mod, Run Silent, Run Deep--and wondering if I should try that one?!

11-16-07, 10:41 AM	#2
mookiemookie Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 9,404 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 1	You could try it and see if you like it...what have you got to lose? __________________ They don’t think it be like it is, but it do. Want more U-boat Kaleun portraits for your SH3 Commander Profiles? Download the SH3 Commander Portrait Pack here.

11-16-07, 11:08 AM	#3
jazman Commander Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Crush Depth Posts: 449 Downloads: 50 Uploads: 0	Give TM a whirl. In stock the enemy ships are like a cicada invasion. You can't blink without finding more of them, so it's too easy to rack up the tonnage. I think TM incorporates some of Tater's campaign mod work, which reduces traffic. The RSRD mod is nice in that it tries to make the ship traffic much more realistic. Someone recently summarized it nicely by saying that TM really improves the sub characteristics, and RSRD really improves the shipping characteristics, and we really need both together. I think someone is working on it this very minute. __________________ "The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him." -- Chesterton

11-16-07, 01:17 PM	#6
captiandon Soundman Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 148 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I have Run Silent Run deep with Real Fleet boat and Real Sinking Mechinics. Very good bunch when put togeather. Its realy hard to find ships all though I ran into a 13 ship convoy lastnight. I sunk one of them and Fired on another before the destroyers drove me deeper. Was in 280 ft water so I couldnt go to deep. I decided on attack run on them was enuff. I was happy with the one ship I did get. __________________

11-16-07, 12:44 PM	#4
brandtryan Engineer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Indianapolis, United States Posts: 214 Downloads: 122 Uploads: 0	Thanks guys--I think I'll give RSRD a go

11-16-07, 12:51 PM	#5
rrmelend Medic Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 162 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	Give RSRD. I also agree with mookiemookie, give TM and try. If you are really worried that TM will be too difficult for you right now than I would also suggest this: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=122023 It is a modified version of TM to make the AI not as strong/good as the official version of TM.