Mods with Historical Japanese Conquest after PH?

[Drakken]

I am currently trying the RSRD mod and I have a blast, however the lack of Japanese conquest in the Pacific (and the change thereof in the missions and shipment lines) befuddles me.

After all, literally hours after Pearl Harbor, Japanese airwaves were bombarding Manila and Malaya, and the IJA were capturing Allied Bases in Indonesia and China with thunderous speed. In my campaign game, after refitting at Balikpapan on January 8th, I see absolutely no sign of the Japanese in the Southern part of the Pacific... not even in message reports.

Are there plans to add the historical fallout of Allied bases in the Pacific in later versions of the current big mods (RSRD, TM, etc.)?

Quote from Wikipedia (Sorry for the referal underlines):

British, Australian and Dutch forces, already drained of personnel and matériel by two years of war with Germany, and heavily committed in the Middle East, North Africa and elsewhere, were unable to provide much more than token resistance to the battle-hardened Japanese. The Allies suffered many disastrous defeats in the first six months of the war. Two major British warships, HMS Repulse and HMS Prince of Wales were sunk by a Japanese air attack off Malaya on December 10, 1941. Thailand surrendered within 24 hours of the Japanese invasion and formally allied herself with Japan on December 21, allowing her bases to be used as a springboard against Singapore and Malaya. Hong Kong fell on December 25, and U.S. bases on Guam and Wake Island were lost at around the same time.

Following the January 1, 1942Declaration by United Nations (the first official use of the term United Nations), the Allied governments appointed the British General Sir Archibald Wavell to the American-British-Dutch-Australian Command (ABDACOM), a supreme command for Allied forces in South East Asia. This gave Wavell nominal control of a huge but thinly-spread force covering an area from Burma to the Dutch East Indies and the Philippines. Other areas, including India, Australia and Hawaii remained under separate local commands. On January 15, Wavell moved to Bandung in Java to assume control of ABDA Command (ABDACOM).

In January, Japan invaded Burma, the Dutch East Indies, New Guinea, the Solomon Islands and they captured Manila, Kuala Lumpur and Rabaul. After being driven out of Malaya, Allied forces in Singapore attempted to resist the Japanese during the battle of Singapore but surrendered to the Japanese on February 15, 1942; about 130,000 Indian, British, Australian and Dutch personnel became prisoners of war.[3] The pace of conquest was rapid: Bali and Timor also fell in February. The rapid collapse of Allied resistance had left the "ABDA area" split in two. Wavell resigned from ABDACOM on February 25, handing control of the ABDA Area to local commanders and returning to the post of Commander-in-Chief, India.
Meanwhile, Japanese aircraft had all but eliminated Allied air power in South-East Asia and were making attacks on northern Australia, beginning with a psychologically devastating (but militarily insignificant) attack on the city of Darwin on February 19, which killed at least 243 people.

At the battle of the Java Sea in late February and early March, the Japanese Navy inflicted a resounding defeat on the main ABDA naval force, under Admiral Karel Doorman. The Netherlands East Indies campaign subsequently ended with the surrender of Allied forces on Java.
In March and April, a raid into the Indian Ocean by a powerful Imperial Japanese

Navy aircraft carrier force into the Indian Ocean resulted in a wave of major air raids against Ceylon and the sinking of a British aircraft carrier, HMS Hermes as well as other Allied ships and driving the British fleet out of the Indian Ocean. This paved the way for a Japanese conquest of Burma and India.
The British, under intense pressure, made a fighting retreat from Rangoon to the Indo-Burmese border. This cut the Burma Road which was the western Allies' supply line to the Chinese Nationalists. Cooperation between the Chinese Nationalists and the Communists had waned from its zenith at the Battle of Wuhan, and the relationship between the two had gone sour as both attempted to expand their area of operations in occupied territories. Most of the Nationalist guerrilla areas were eventually overtaken by the Communists. On the other hand, some Nationalist units were deployed to blockade the Communists and not the Japanese. Furthermore, many of the forces of the Chinese Nationalists were warlords allied to Chiang Kai-Shek, but not directly under his command. "Of the 1,200,000 troops under Chiang's control, only 650,000 were directly controlled by his generals, and another 550,000 controlled by warlords who claimed loyalty to his government; the strongest force was the Szechuan army of 320,000 men. The defeat of this army would do much to end Chiang's power."[11] The Japanese used these divisions to press ahead in their offenses.

Filipino and U.S. forces put up a fierce resistance in the Philippines until May 8, 1942, when more than 80,000 of them surrendered. By this time, General Douglas MacArthur, who had been appointed Supreme Allied Commander South West Pacific, had relocated his headquarters to Australia. The U.S. Navy, under Admiral Chester Nimitz, had responsibility for the rest of the Pacific Ocean. This divided command had unfortunate consequences for the commerce war,[12] and consequently, the war itself.

[donut]

Hj-lighted,it is a good read. nice find,an S boat out of Manila could have fun

[Drakken]

So, no heads up about this?

[Angus89]

Not sure what your seeing in game, but i get messages about burma, raids in ceylon, sinking of british ships in ceylon, fall of singapore etc. Have even run into task forces/ invasion forces just prior to major events as well. There is I am sure some room for improvement. Tmaru has a few changes. RSRD is what Im trying right now, and as far as missions/objectives, you get sent to realistic areas with good chances of spotting fleets, invasion forces and such. Still early in my adventure so far. If I read right, thats what Lurker is trying to do, In reawriting the campaign layers. Thats what I see anyway.

[Drakken]

Well, for instance by January 8th I haven't seen Hong Kong fall, Manila and the Phillipines being seized and used as a naval base, Japanese A/C patrolling in the Southern Pacific, etc. At least in SH3, we could see bases change hand and being used by the enemy for air patrol or naval bases and, with GWX, the evolution of the situation could be throughly followed by our message recieved.

In short, by the middle of 1942 most, if not all, of the sea passes near the Philippines, the PEI and the Malaya, even islands up to the Northern PNG and Midway should be a Japanese dominated seabed.

[lurker_hlb3]

Example the pictures

[Drakken]

Nice.

Perhaps it is the lack of messages updating us about the changes and the Japanese offensives in December 1941 that creates the illusion that these movements don't happen.

It would be very nice if we received a influx of messages transmitted by SouPac command about bases falling, offensive being launched and warnings about ASW task forces in warzones... like in GWX, for instance. Surely the content of these messages to all SS task forces has been made public.

[leovampire]

Happening in game. Only Triger maru uses it right now other than people who added it to their game individualy.

I set up the Airbases in game to be visable on the sub's nav map. And they change Country and color according to who has control of them in game.

But suposedly for the 1.4 patch the game will now show who own's and control's what in game on the map's.

I believe this is what you are talking about.

In the mod I added radio messages that says when the Jap's gain control of or set up an Airbase and where it is then it appears on the map the next day and also set up radio messages for when a sub tender shows up in game and where they are.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...highlight=base

[lurker_hlb3]

Originally Posted by Drakken

It would be very nice if we received a influx of messages transmitted by SouPac command about bases falling, offensive being launched and warnings about ASW task forces in warzones... like in GWX, for instance. Surely the content of these messages to all SS task forces has been made public.

Your comment is noted

[Drakken]

Originally Posted by lurker_hlb3

Your comment is noted

Thanks. I hope I did not sound too whiny.

I think your mod is really great, otherwise. I wouldn't have brought this up if I didn't.