At Least Seven Dead in School Shooting

CptSimFreak · 11-07-07, 02:43 PM

If only he had a GF...

XabbaRus · 11-07-07, 03:25 PM

Sad individual. I don't think girl rejection would be it. Hell I got rejected loads of times.

From reading the wiki link to that eco fascist guy who his mother likes no wonder.

Skybird · 11-07-07, 03:50 PM

Just guessing of mine.

What he wrote sounds very much like an unsure juvenile whose mind struggles with puberty and thus is picking up more ideas from most different directions than he currently can digest, lacking life experience to sort them. So far, so usual - all of us went through that phase. Enthusiasm and idealism meets confusion and and lacking understanding. And this wild mixture of unripe ideas and terms is put into a pressure kettle and put onto a fire: the context of his family, especially his mother, heating it all up - until the kettle blew up.

Could have been like this, but must not have been like this. Life stinks if your parents do not support you and help you to find out yourself which is the better path to choose for at that crossroad, or mess up their parental responsibilities altogether.

Tragic event. Hate-filled calls for revenge, wishing most brutal doom and penalty upon him, are not needed, and must not be wanted. Justice, reason, caring for the survivors and those who lost loved ones, and protecting the community, is good enough.

11-07-07, 04:11 PM

Reading this brought to mind;

What do I hate / What I don’t like?
Equality, tolerance, human rights, political correctness, hypocrisy, ignorance, enslaving religions and ideologies, antidepressants, TV soap operas & drama shows, rap -music, mass media, censorship, political populists, religious fanatics, moral majority, totalitarianism, consumerism, democracy, pacifism, state mafia, alcholohics, TV commercials, human race.

What do I love / what do I like?
Existentialism, self-awareness, freedom, justice, truth, moral & political philosophy, personal & social psychology, evolution science, political incorrectness, guns, shooting, BDSM, computers, internet, aggressive electronic and industrial rock & metal music, violent movies, , FPS –computer games, sarcasm, irony, black humour, macabre artm mass & serial killer cases, natural disasters, eugenics

the contradictions I often hear from some on this board. I'm not saying we have any potential murders here. But we do have too much permissiveness which will now try to either attempt to understand it or justify it.

Take the opportunity away by allowing schools to be as secure as government institutions. It is no less important, is it?

Tchocky · 11-07-07, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by waste gate

the contradictions I often hear from some on this board. I'm not saying we have any potential murders here. But we do have too much permissiveness which will now try to either attempt to understand it or justify it.

What's wrong with understanding why someone would do something like this?

11-07-07, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky

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Originally Posted by waste gate

the contradictions I often hear from some on this board. I'm not saying we have any potential murders here. But we do have too much permissiveness which will now try to either attempt to understand it or justify it.

What's wrong with understanding why someone would do something like this?

Because I don't think it serves any purpose. It doesn't stop the next crazy from doing it. More resources should be placed on preventing future episodes. By that I mean letting it be known that the easy opportunity of shooting up a school full of easy victims doesn't exist.

Biggles · 11-07-07, 04:48 PM

This bastard doesn't have any excuses if you ask me. I'm sad that he's dead, 'cause he deserves a life in a cold cell before going six feet under. I'm truly sorry over this event, and my thoughts with the families of the dead, and, indeed, the finnish people as whole.

Tchocky · 11-08-07, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by waste gate

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Originally Posted by Tchocky

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Originally Posted by waste gate

the contradictions I often hear from some on this board. I'm not saying we have any potential murders here. But we do have too much permissiveness which will now try to either attempt to understand it or justify it.

What's wrong with understanding why someone would do something like this?

Because I don't think it serves any purpose. It doesn't stop the next crazy from doing it. More resources should be placed on preventing future episodes. By that I mean letting it be known that the easy opportunity of shooting up a school full of easy victims doesn't exist.

I can't see such measures affecting the mentally ill. Someone who believes that shooting up his/her school isn't going to be reasoned with, at least not in a deterrence situation.
Whereas, if we could actually get down to the root causes of this kind of behaviour (in this case it seems to be a very unhealthy home environment), observe the indicators, we could take more effective measures against them.
I say "against them", if a teenager believes that he/she has to shoot up a school, serious psychiatric care is required.
Investigating causes/disorders could in fact, stop the next one. Personally, I don't believe we'll ever be without these events. I'd be worried about total preventative measures creating more problems than they would solve.

Anything's better than vilification of something just because we don't understand it.

Iceman · 11-07-07, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Just guessing of mine.

What he wrote sounds very much like an unsure juvenile whose mind struggles with puberty and thus is picking up more ideas from most different directions than he currently can digest, lacking life experience to sort them. So far, so usual - all of us went through that phase. Enthusiasm and idealism meets confusion and and lacking understanding. And this wild mixture of unripe ideas and terms is put into a pressure kettle and put onto a fire: the context of his family, especially his mother, heating it all up - until the kettle blew up.

Could have been like this, but must not have been like this. Life stinks if your parents do not support you and help you to find out yourself which is the better path to choose for at that crossroad, or mess up their parental responsibilities altogether.

Tragic event. Hate-filled calls for revenge, wishing most brutal doom and penalty upon him, are not needed, and must not be wanted. Justice, reason, caring for the survivors and those who lost loved ones, and protecting the community, is good enough.

I agree here Skybird...very tragic...very sorry Happy Times for this happening in your country.

CptSimFreak · 11-07-07, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by XabbaRus

Sad individual. I don't think girl rejection would be it. Hell I got rejected loads of times.

From reading the wiki link to that eco fascist guy who his mother likes no wonder.

when you're getting some, world is always a better place

baggygreen · 11-07-07, 11:40 PM

He seems, like sky and others have said, to contradict himself often.

Happytimes said before that the media is jumping on the 'violent computer games' theory, i doubt he ever played a game! from what i read into it, he would've hated supprting the capitalist moneymakers that release the games....

The real source if this idiot is his mother. Can she be charged with manslaughter, or maybe involuntary manslaughter for bringing her kid up so messed up? I doubt it, but sometimes i think it wouldnt be a bad thing... maybe she can be charged instead for supporting nazism?> isnt that a crime in europe or something??

Happy Times · 11-07-07, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by baggygreen

He seems, like sky and others have said, to contradict himself often.

Happytimes said before that the media is jumping on the 'violent computer games' theory, i doubt he ever played a game! from what i read into it, he would've hated supprting the capitalist moneymakers that release the games....

The real source if this idiot is his mother. Can she be charged with manslaughter, or maybe involuntary manslaughter for bringing her kid up so messed up? I doubt it, but sometimes i think it wouldnt be a bad thing... maybe she can be charged instead for supporting nazism?> isnt that a crime in europe or something??

He did play a lot but i dont believe anyone comes crazy by playing.
I am so irritated that the media spins this against games, movies and guns.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7084045.stm

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe...ing/index.html

porphy · 11-08-07, 04:06 AM

Very tragic event.

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I am so irritated that the media spins this against games, movies and guns.

They always do that, it is easy and connects to something that shows violent behaviour. But the Nazis didn't have computer games, did they? Go figure what is more likely to twist a persons mind in this way.

Happy Times · 11-08-07, 04:28 AM

And now we know the girl that dumbed him and got engaged to another.
She is from Denmark and is also a "philosofer".

http://www.youtube.com/user/tanascheel

There you can follow the comments.

These young people are facked up. They seem to be over the Western world..

tanascheel | November 07, 2007
ALL OF YOU WILL BE BLOCKED AND DELETED

Im evil? No, I never killed anyone I never asked him to kill anyone I never told his weak ass to kill anyone or forced him too. A lot of people get rejected without resorting to murder. He did what he did because of who he was.

You people commenting here and on his profile are doing it for your own 2 minutes of fame and dont know **** about the facts so **** OFF losers.

Guldfisk21 | November 07, 2007
Seriously it's a good thing you dumped his ass, he failed to even come close to Cho's highscore, what a loser.

SpecialAttackTeam | November 07, 2007
HE KILLED THOSE FAGGOT STUDENTS BY HIS OWN CHOICE, TANA WAS RIGHT, HE WAS WEAK AND WORTHLESS.

**** YOU ALL

**** THE FAGGOT STUDENTS

And if you got something to say, say to ME, not Tana....I bullied him WAY MORE than she did.

Finish people can eat **** and die, that punk shot them on his own choice!!

AryanKrieg | November 07, 2007
If anyone pushed that scrawny fagot to do what he did it was me. I called him on all of his bull****. His fake claims and nonsense.

11-07-07, 03:25 PM	#2
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Sad individual. I don't think girl rejection would be it. Hell I got rejected loads of times. From reading the wiki link to that eco fascist guy who his mother likes no wonder. __________________

11-07-07, 03:50 PM	#3
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,637 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Just guessing of mine. What he wrote sounds very much like an unsure juvenile whose mind struggles with puberty and thus is picking up more ideas from most different directions than he currently can digest, lacking life experience to sort them. So far, so usual - all of us went through that phase. Enthusiasm and idealism meets confusion and and lacking understanding. And this wild mixture of unripe ideas and terms is put into a pressure kettle and put onto a fire: the context of his family, especially his mother, heating it all up - until the kettle blew up. Could have been like this, but must not have been like this. Life stinks if your parents do not support you and help you to find out yourself which is the better path to choose for at that crossroad, or mess up their parental responsibilities altogether. Tragic event. Hate-filled calls for revenge, wishing most brutal doom and penalty upon him, are not needed, and must not be wanted. Justice, reason, caring for the survivors and those who lost loved ones, and protecting the community, is good enough. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

11-07-07, 04:48 PM	#7
Biggles Silent Hunter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sweden (I'm not a Viking...) Posts: 3,529 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	This bastard doesn't have any excuses if you ask me. I'm sad that he's dead, 'cause he deserves a life in a cold cell before going six feet under. I'm truly sorry over this event, and my thoughts with the families of the dead, and, indeed, the finnish people as whole. __________________

11-08-07, 04:28 AM	#14
Happy Times Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 2,950 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	And now we know the girl that dumbed him and got engaged to another. She is from Denmark and is also a "philosofer". http://www.youtube.com/user/tanascheel There you can follow the comments. These young people are facked up. They seem to be over the Western world.. tanascheel \| November 07, 2007 ALL OF YOU WILL BE BLOCKED AND DELETED Im evil? No, I never killed anyone I never asked him to kill anyone I never told his weak ass to kill anyone or forced him too. A lot of people get rejected without resorting to murder. He did what he did because of who he was. You people commenting here and on his profile are doing it for your own 2 minutes of fame and dont know ** about the facts so OFF losers. Guldfisk21 \| November 07, 2007 Seriously it's a good thing you dumped his ass, he failed to even come close to Cho's highscore, what a loser. SpecialAttackTeam \| November 07, 2007 HE KILLED THOSE FAGGOT STUDENTS BY HIS OWN CHOICE, TANA WAS RIGHT, HE WAS WEAK AND WORTHLESS. YOU ALL THE FAGGOT STUDENTS And if you got something to say, say to ME, not Tana....I bullied him WAY MORE than she did. Finish people can eat and die, that punk shot them on his own choice!! AryanKrieg \| November 07, 2007 If anyone pushed that scrawny fagot to do what he did it was me. I called him on all of his bull**. His fake claims and nonsense. __________________

11-07-07, 02:43 PM	#1
CptSimFreak Frogman Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 291 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	If only he had a GF...

11-07-07, 04:11 PM	#4
waste gate Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Reading this brought to mind; What do I hate / What I don’t like? Equality, tolerance, human rights, political correctness, hypocrisy, ignorance, enslaving religions and ideologies, antidepressants, TV soap operas & drama shows, rap -music, mass media, censorship, political populists, religious fanatics, moral majority, totalitarianism, consumerism, democracy, pacifism, state mafia, alcholohics, TV commercials, human race. What do I love / what do I like? Existentialism, self-awareness, freedom, justice, truth, moral & political philosophy, personal & social psychology, evolution science, political incorrectness, guns, shooting, BDSM, computers, internet, aggressive electronic and industrial rock & metal music, violent movies, , FPS –computer games, sarcasm, irony, black humour, macabre artm mass & serial killer cases, natural disasters, eugenics the contradictions I often hear from some on this board. I'm not saying we have any potential murders here. But we do have too much permissiveness which will now try to either attempt to understand it or justify it. Take the opportunity away by allowing schools to be as secure as government institutions. It is no less important, is it?

11-07-07, 11:40 PM	#11
baggygreen Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canberra, ACT, Down Under (really On Top) Posts: 1,880 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	He seems, like sky and others have said, to contradict himself often. Happytimes said before that the media is jumping on the 'violent computer games' theory, i doubt he ever played a game! from what i read into it, he would've hated supprting the capitalist moneymakers that release the games.... The real source if this idiot is his mother. Can she be charged with manslaughter, or maybe involuntary manslaughter for bringing her kid up so messed up? I doubt it, but sometimes i think it wouldnt be a bad thing... maybe she can be charged instead for supporting nazism?> isnt that a crime in europe or something??