First kill?

SteamWake · 11-07-07, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by rrmelend

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Originally Posted by Torplexed

First confirmed enemy ship sunk was by the USS Swordfish on 16th December 1941.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Swordfish_%28SS-193%29

I cringe when I see someone use wikipedia as a source. To show my students why they could not use it as a source I got onto it one day during class and changed the definition of a teacher to someone who was responsible for teaching propaganda the government wants its citizens to know. I did not have to log in or say where I got the info from or anything. The best thing was that we got onto the site everyday for about a week before the definition was changed back to what it had before.

Oh ... could I take this and run with it. But I dont want to spin this into a political discussion.

mcarlsonus · 11-07-07, 12:36 PM

...first confirmed kill was the ramming and sinking of a Japanese miniature submarine by a US destroyer in the area of Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941.

seafarer · 11-07-07, 01:34 PM

That would be the destroyer USS Ward, and the midget sub sank from flooding from a 4" shell hole in her conning tower. The sub was found by H.U.R.L. in 2002 using the DSV's Pisces IV and V.

You can look up sinkings by boat here. As Torplexed said, it looks like USS Swordfish gets credit for the first ship sinking by a US submarine (read her 1st war patrol report here). It's interesting though that the first official (ie. JANAC seal of approval) sinking was likely not, in fact, the first ship sunk by the Swordfish.

-Pv- · 11-07-07, 02:08 PM

My post was responding to 1st "kill" by a submarine in WWII as worded in the question rather than 1st "sinking" by a sub or other craft.
-Pv-

11-07-07, 12:36 PM	#2
mcarlsonus Weps Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 362 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	If we move to surface forces... ...first confirmed kill was the ramming and sinking of a Japanese miniature submarine by a US destroyer in the area of Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941.

11-07-07, 01:34 PM	#3
seafarer Commodore Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 622 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	That would be the destroyer USS Ward, and the midget sub sank from flooding from a 4" shell hole in her conning tower. The sub was found by H.U.R.L. in 2002 using the DSV's Pisces IV and V. You can look up sinkings by boat here. As Torplexed said, it looks like USS Swordfish gets credit for the first ship sinking by a US submarine (read her 1st war patrol report here). It's interesting though that the first official (ie. JANAC seal of approval) sinking was likely not, in fact, the first ship sunk by the Swordfish. __________________ My Father's ship, HMCS Waskesiu (K330), sank U257 on 02/24/1944 running SHIII-1.4 with GWX2.1 and SHIV-1.5 with TMO/RSRDC/PE3.3 under MS Vista Home Premium 32-bit SP1 ACER AMD Athlon 64x2 4800+, 4GB DDR2 RAM, 400GB SATA HD Antec TruePower Trio 650watt PSU BFG GeForce 8800GT/OC 512MB VRAM, Samsung 216BW widescreen (1680x1050) LCD Last edited by seafarer; 11-07-07 at 02:37 PM.

11-07-07, 02:08 PM	#4
-Pv- The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,434 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	My post was responding to 1st "kill" by a submarine in WWII as worded in the question rather than 1st "sinking" by a sub or other craft. -Pv-