Illegal aliens and some alarming statistics

[SUBMAN1]

The more I read, the more I see, the more I realize we got a major issue here. Don't even get me on welfare costs for them (about $1 billion back in 2001 for a state like Colorado, and now we have 4 million more of them, so its even way more now!) Anyway, looking to verify on more than one source, but here are some alarming statisitcs:

12 people will die today at the hands of illegal aliens due to violent crime

13 people will die today from an illegal alien drunk driving

That is 9125 Americans dead annually - dead due to illegals

In the last 6 years, 4 million more have crossed our borders illegally and settled here.

95% of all homicide warrants are issued for illegals aliens

2/3rds of outstanding homicide warrants are for illegals aliens (do the crime and split!)

8 American children a day are sexually abused by Illegal aliens

That is 2920 children per year whos lives are permantly ruined

There are almost a quarter million illegal aliens in this country that sexually abuse children, and they abuse 4 children on average each. That is 1 Million children.

I have one word - Ouch. Why are we putting up with this? And the news media harps on how many soldiers are dying in Iraq on any given day, saying 25 soldiers killed this month. Why are they not reporting on this when 775 Americans die at the hands of illegals in the same time period? Why are they reporting on that and not on the 248 children who become sex toys for illegals? Why?

Bring the friggen soldiers home and lets round up this problem already. Then they can go back to fixing Iraq.

-S

[DeepIron]

Pretty scary stuff isn't it? Well, if you thought that was scary, check out this site:
http://www.numbersusa.com/index

It's not just the illegal immigration issue, it's *much* more disturbing... This video really brings it home: http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...mbersusa&hl=en

it's 14 minutes long really worth the watching... The numbers don't lie...

[elite_hunter_sh3]

my job here just took a turning point , im very happy to hear that you are realizing a major problem

[DeepIron]

my job here just took a turning point , im very happy to hear that you are realizing a major problem...

er.... ok.... I guess....???

Certainly the "uncontrolled immigration/illegal immigration" issues are major problems. However, the bigger problem is getting an unresponsive Federal Government to produce legislation to remedy it...

The best hope we have, IMO, is for the individual states to enact laws and deal with the problem at the state level, such as what Oklahoma has done.

[elite_hunter_sh3]

the mayor of Oklahoma is a role model for what the rest of the major city majors should be

[Tchocky]

SUBMAN - You make it look like the intent of every illegal is to come into the US and murder honest citizens and rape their children.

Source on those stats?

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

SUBMAN - You make it look like the intent of every illegal is to come into the US and murder honest citizens and rape their children.

Source on those stats?

No - read again - 1/4 million - just because they are in my country. The others are responsible for other problems in my country. The point is - it is rediculous.

-S

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by elite_hunter_sh3

my job here just took a turning point , im very happy to hear that you are realizing a major problem

No, long before you I knew there was a problem. The difference between me and you is I have no problem with Mexicans or other aliens coming to my country under normal channels through the INS, where you do. I do have a problem of them coming across the border illegally, and bankrupting my country through free welfare and free medical and killing my neighbors!

-S

[Tchocky]

46 people died every day of 2005 from drunk driving in the US.

300 million Americans to 12 million aliens. That's 25 for every illegal.
One would think that 1/25th of all drunk driving deaths would be due to illegal aliens (perhaps less, seeing as how they would have a harder time of it, if stopped by police)
But you're saying that it's between 1/4 and 1/3 of all deaths.

Source?

[DeepIron]

@Tchocky, here, let's put some faces on *some* of the crimes perpetrated by illegal aliens in the US: http://www.immigrationshumancost.org...mevictims.html

Every day that I'm home off the road, I read through the local paper and catch up on what's been going on while I've been away. The "Police Blotter" section always has far more latino names than "Smith or Jones".

Are they *all* illegals? Not necessarily... But he disturbing aspect for me is that crimes committed by the latino community far surpass those of other nationalities. Ie; we have a substantial number of Bosnians here and I rarely, if ever, hear or read of any law-breaking issues with that segment of our society. Why is that do you think?

I do have a problem of them coming across the border illegally, and bankrupting my country through free welfare and free medical and killing my neighbors!

Absolutely. And frankly, I'd like to see every illegal in the country rounded up and their sorry butts deported right back to where they came from...

They can start the process right here where I live...

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

46 people died every day of 2005 from drunk driving in the US.

300 million Americans to 12 million aliens. That's 25 for every illegal.
One would think that 1/25th of all drunk driving deaths would be due to illegal aliens (perhaps less, seeing as how they would have a harder time of it, if stopped by police)
But you're saying that it's between 1/4 and 1/3 of all deaths.

Source?

I don't have the link here, but google it yourself. It shouldn't be hard to find.

I'll get it when I get home if you can't find it.

-S

[SUBMAN1]

Here is an article where they kill the 12 Americans:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=53103

I'm googling this by the way, so you can too! It is easy - try it.

It has your 13 AMericans killed by drunk driving Illegals in there too.

The article is from today even.

-S

[Tchocky]

I'm googling, but mostly single-issue blogs and unsourced comments are coming up.

That 95% homicide warrant part - Looks to be rubbish

http://www.penraker.com/archives/008998.html

This is not the first time Mac Donald has played fast and loose with her facts. In an article she wrote in 2004 for City Journal, “The Illegal Alien Crime Wave,” Mac Donald asserted, “In Los Angeles, 95 percent of all outstanding warrants for homicide (which total 1,200 to 1,500) target illegal aliens. Up to two-thirds of all fugitive felony warrants (17,000) are for illegal aliens.” The problem is, the statistic is entirely bogus — and worse it has become one of the most ubiquitous factoids used in the debate on immigration, cited in congressional testimony, repeated ad nauseum on cable news and talk radio, and has even been picked up by some otherwise sensible voices in the immigration debate. The Los Angeles Police Department does not gather information on the legal status of those arrested, much less on people — those who have outstanding warrants — that by definition they can’t find, which I confirmed in repeated conversations with the LAPD public-information office. Moreover, in 2004, the year Mac Donald wrote the piece, there were a total of 518 homicides in L.A. Now unless every murder was committed by at least three illegal aliens, none of whom was ever apprehended, Mac Donald’s 1,200-1,500 figure should have leaped out at her as obviously problematic — the 95-percent claim alone should have set off warning bells. I contacted her after Snopes.com, the Los Angeles Times, and others had debunked her assertion. She told me “The LAPD fugitive warrants section gave me that figure.” When I asked her how she explained the 1,200-1,500 figure when there were only 518 homicides in 2004, she said, “As you know, warrants are cumulative; they do not derive only from the current year. Outstanding warrants are not the same as the murder rate.” But she did not add that qualifier to her original statement — and, besides, it wouldn’t much matter if she had since the information on illegal aliens who are the subject of warrants simply isn’t available no matter what her source in the LAPD told her.

EDIT
Yeah, I found Steve King's report.

King has cited an April 2005 GAO report [8] as the source of the statistics in his editorial, but close examination of the numbers in that report do not support King's statements. King said that 28% of all inmates at each level of the US prison system (federal, state, and local) were illegal aliens. In fact, the GAO report said only that 27% of federal prisoners were "criminal aliens," a category including both legal and illegal aliens. The GAO report has no illegal alien percentage figures for state prisons and local jails, which together have 92 percent of US prisoners. It does, however, discuss State Criminal Alien Assistance Program (SCAAP) inmate compensation numbers, which (when compared with total prisoner censuses in other government reports) show that only about four percent of state prisoners and 3.5 percent of local prisoners were illegal aliens. Those figures demonstrate that the supposed daily totals from King's editorial exaggerate the real numbers by seven times or more.

That's just from wiki, I already don't like the look of this guy.

Originally Posted by elite_hunter_sh3

the mayor of Oklahoma is a role model for what the rest of the major city majors should be

Damn straight. He was on Lou Dobbs last night, right? Went head-to-head with some guy saying that everyone is against Latinos, which is just a smokescreen.

No one is against "Latinos". We're against ILLEGALS. Love the way they always try to make it look like anyone enforcing laws is a BAD PERSON for doing so.

"We are here illegally, yes, but we are now in the millions, so by default, you have to give us rights, so there."

Sorry, but I don't buy it.

They love the jobs, don't pay taxes, use Social Security, public assistance money meant to assist US CITIZENS is used for THEIR benefit without their first putting money INTO the system, etc. I believe the correct definition for something like that is a leach. Leaches are best removed from the body, as they serve little, if any, useful function.

[DeepIron]

5 out of 10 on the FBIs Most Wantd List are Latinos:
http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten/fug.../fugitives.htm

C'mon, the writing is on the wall here... When you open the flood gates, the rubbish floats in with the rest of the water...