Need Help

Neptune#1 · 11-01-07, 11:23 AM

thank you for the help, the tech that is helping me with this stuff figured the 6200 would be more than enough he is knowledgable about computers but not at sims, not the end of the world card was only $39.00 and my 500gb hard drive should be here today which I am shure is alot of the problem,I will pass the info on to the tech, thanks again for all the help.

SteamWake · 11-01-07, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Neptune#1

thank you for the help, the tech that is helping me with this stuff figured the 6200 would be more than enough he is knowledgable about computers but not at sims, not the end of the world card was only $39.00 and my 500gb hard drive should be here today which I am shure is alot of the problem,I will pass the info on to the tech, thanks again for all the help.

"More than enough" ? Man he sold you a bill of goods. SH4 is one of the most GPU intensive games out there. This aint no spreadsheet were tryin to run.

A capable video card is going to run you at leastr about 150.00 dollars probably more.

A new hard drive, while you may see a small performance increase, unless your old drive was stuffed to the gills and a fragmented mess you most likely wont even notice. But hey its never a bad idea to have plenty of storage and free space for those cache files.

Neptune#1 · 11-01-07, 01:16 PM

actually Steamwake he gave me the power supply, and he makes nothing on the parts as I ordered them myself as per his recomendations, he is a friend that as I had stated in the above post is very knowledgeable at computers just not familiar at simulators, he's an honest guy he even gave my son who was in a car accident a few years ago [ ended up in a wheel chair at 19] a whole computer for free and set it up for him and still does the maintanance on it for him for free.

jazman · 11-01-07, 01:31 PM

He's a decent guy, and I'm sure he wasn't malicious in his advice about the vid card. He was simply wrong. I have an NVIDIA 7600 GT, and yes, that is probably the low end for this game. I get frame rates in the low-mid 20s (running 1152x864 on a 19" CRT). I can tell when I'm getting near a convoy (even though I haven't spotted it yet), because it all starts stuttering. I do have all the options on.

I'm set: it's smooth enough in general, but the proximity of a convoy makes it noticeably stuttery! It's my ALEVC (Almost Low End Video Card) radar. A slower card would always be stuttery, no help. A faster card would never be stuttery, no help. I'm in the sweet spot with my hardware radar mod. OK, it's probably really a CPU issue...

In my Sugar Boat it didn't help last night, because even at flank speed, the convoy I spotted last night was outrunning me (troop transports).

SteminDemon13 · 11-01-07, 01:36 PM

Neptune I have the GForce 8500 GT PCI Express. It is a great card and I have had no trouble with any of my recent computer games. SH4 runs great. The only possible upgrade I would consider is an extra gig of ram. Great card and not too expensive. Check one out.

Neptune#1 · 11-01-07, 03:22 PM

Could one of you guys tell me the difference in video cards for example my 6200 with 256 mb, 3.0 shader and say an 8500 with 256 mb,3.0 shader, I am kind of a dim wit at this stuff but I am learning from you guy's and my own mistakes, also as my pcu is at 2.66 will 3.0g really make that big of a difference or would the fact that once I install the 500gb hard drive with saita make a bigger difference, this coming spring I am going to buy an lcd monitor, which is why I am messing with this problem so much while I can play the game reasonably now would defeat the purpose of lcd shortly, I already plan on replacing the mother board and processor with 3.0g when I go to lcd and hopefully when I am done I will have a kick ass system without spending $5000.00 at Dell, also how much doe's the dvd drive effect this game, I am probably going to upgrade this as well but we think the one I have installed is good[fast enough].

SteamWake · 11-01-07, 03:33 PM

Yea I guess that did sound a little harsh. If he really wanted to see you a bill of goods he would have sold you that $300.00 video card

The differences between the cards are many, architecture, clock timing, hardware, dram timing, and on and on.

Your best bet would be to do a little research. Find some sites that do impartial comparisons.

Let me give you one warning though. If you do put a bigger, better, faster GPU in your machine make sure that the power supply will be adaquate to handle it.

I put a 7600xt in my machine and blew out the psu in about an hour.

jazman · 11-01-07, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Neptune#1

Could one of you guys tell me the difference in video cards for example my 6200 with 256 mb, 3.0 shader and say an 8500 with 256 mb,3.0 shader, I am kind of a dim wit at this stuff but I am learning from you guy's and my own mistakes, also as my pcu is at 2.66 will 3.0g really make that big of a difference or would the fact that once I install the 500gb hard drive with saita make a bigger difference, this coming spring I am going to buy an lcd monitor, which is why I am messing with this problem so much while I can play the game reasonably now would defeat the purpose of lcd shortly, I already plan on replacing the mother board and processor with 3.0g when I go to lcd and hopefully when I am done I will have a kick ass system without spending $5000.00 at Dell, also how much doe's the dvd drive effect this game, I am probably going to upgrade this as well but we think the one I have installed is good[fast enough].

A couple of good sites are AnandTech (http://www.anandtech.com) and Tom's Hardware (http://www.tomshardware.com). They do all sorts of tests on hardware. If you read through, say, some tests on video cards, you'll get an idea of things that are important in determining performance. You might also get some tips on test software you can use to benchmark your own box and see how it rates, and how a video card replacement helps.

A side "benefit" of playing hardware-intensive games is that you learn all this stuff...

11-01-07, 01:31 PM	#4
jazman Commander Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Crush Depth Posts: 449 Downloads: 50 Uploads: 0	He's a decent guy, and I'm sure he wasn't malicious in his advice about the vid card. He was simply wrong. I have an NVIDIA 7600 GT, and yes, that is probably the low end for this game. I get frame rates in the low-mid 20s (running 1152x864 on a 19" CRT). I can tell when I'm getting near a convoy (even though I haven't spotted it yet), because it all starts stuttering. I do have all the options on. I'm set: it's smooth enough in general, but the proximity of a convoy makes it noticeably stuttery! It's my ALEVC (Almost Low End Video Card) radar. A slower card would always be stuttery, no help. A faster card would never be stuttery, no help. I'm in the sweet spot with my hardware radar mod. OK, it's probably really a CPU issue... In my Sugar Boat it didn't help last night, because even at flank speed, the convoy I spotted last night was outrunning me (troop transports). __________________ "The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him." -- Chesterton

11-01-07, 11:23 AM	#1
Neptune#1 Bosun Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Racine WI Posts: 64 Downloads: 112 Uploads: 0	thank you for the help, the tech that is helping me with this stuff figured the 6200 would be more than enough he is knowledgable about computers but not at sims, not the end of the world card was only $39.00 and my 500gb hard drive should be here today which I am shure is alot of the problem,I will pass the info on to the tech, thanks again for all the help.

11-01-07, 01:16 PM	#3
Neptune#1 Bosun Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Racine WI Posts: 64 Downloads: 112 Uploads: 0	actually Steamwake he gave me the power supply, and he makes nothing on the parts as I ordered them myself as per his recomendations, he is a friend that as I had stated in the above post is very knowledgeable at computers just not familiar at simulators, he's an honest guy he even gave my son who was in a car accident a few years ago [ ended up in a wheel chair at 19] a whole computer for free and set it up for him and still does the maintanance on it for him for free.

11-01-07, 01:36 PM	#5
SteminDemon13 Sparky Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 158 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Neptune I have the GForce 8500 GT PCI Express. It is a great card and I have had no trouble with any of my recent computer games. SH4 runs great. The only possible upgrade I would consider is an extra gig of ram. Great card and not too expensive. Check one out.

11-01-07, 03:22 PM	#6
Neptune#1 Bosun Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Racine WI Posts: 64 Downloads: 112 Uploads: 0	Could one of you guys tell me the difference in video cards for example my 6200 with 256 mb, 3.0 shader and say an 8500 with 256 mb,3.0 shader, I am kind of a dim wit at this stuff but I am learning from you guy's and my own mistakes, also as my pcu is at 2.66 will 3.0g really make that big of a difference or would the fact that once I install the 500gb hard drive with saita make a bigger difference, this coming spring I am going to buy an lcd monitor, which is why I am messing with this problem so much while I can play the game reasonably now would defeat the purpose of lcd shortly, I already plan on replacing the mother board and processor with 3.0g when I go to lcd and hopefully when I am done I will have a kick ass system without spending $5000.00 at Dell, also how much doe's the dvd drive effect this game, I am probably going to upgrade this as well but we think the one I have installed is good[fast enough].

11-01-07, 03:33 PM	#7
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Yea I guess that did sound a little harsh. If he really wanted to see you a bill of goods he would have sold you that $300.00 video card The differences between the cards are many, architecture, clock timing, hardware, dram timing, and on and on. Your best bet would be to do a little research. Find some sites that do impartial comparisons. Let me give you one warning though. If you do put a bigger, better, faster GPU in your machine make sure that the power supply will be adaquate to handle it. I put a 7600xt in my machine and blew out the psu in about an hour.