This is wrong

Skybird · 10-27-07, 06:58 AM

It depends on how "suitably experienced nurses" gets defined and is understood.

Also, having practiced in a hospice, and a hospital with a separate station for the dying myself for several months, I want to stress this description in the article: "The new guidelines, which cover hospitals, hospices and ambulances, were introduced because some experts feel that sustained rescuscitation efforts can be undignified and often worthless. " That was not my experience, for I was no medic and did not work in such departments of the hospital where such emergencies would happen all that often, but seeing those being old often dying in loneliness, in denial of their understandable personal wishes (or in illusions about their situation) - and in contrast the hard reality of a routine-running hospital - it makes me think about dignity and uselessness in that context, too.

the one big wrong with our modern medicine is this: most people think it is worth it to live as long as possible, no matter the financial and life quality costs. And that is the source of great tragedy in modern time. that's why I would refuse and actively resist any procedures pushing me into such a direction once my time has come, and I also would not accept to go into hospital if I would knew it is just for dying this time. For me, making certain decisions myself is the choice I made.

We prolongue our lives, and live longer and longer, but nobody dares to speak out about the price that means for families. Partners, and children. For societies, for the younger generations living in them. The price is heavy, believe me.

10-27-07, 06:58 AM	#2
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,614 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	It depends on how "suitably experienced nurses" gets defined and is understood. Also, having practiced in a hospice, and a hospital with a separate station for the dying myself for several months, I want to stress this description in the article: "The new guidelines, which cover hospitals, hospices and ambulances, were introduced because some experts feel that sustained rescuscitation efforts can be *undignified* and often worthless. " That was not my experience, for I was no medic and did not work in such departments of the hospital where such emergencies would happen all that often, but seeing those being old often dying in loneliness, in denial of their understandable personal wishes (or in illusions about their situation) - and in contrast the hard reality of a routine-running hospital - it makes me think about dignity and uselessness in that context, too. the one big wrong with our modern medicine is this: most people think it is worth it to live as long as possible, no matter the financial and life quality costs. And that is the source of great tragedy in modern time. that's why I would refuse and actively resist any procedures pushing me into such a direction once my time has come, and I also would not accept to go into hospital if I would knew it is just for dying this time. For me, making certain decisions myself is the choice I made. We prolongue our lives, and live longer and longer, but nobody dares to speak out about the price that means for families. Partners, and children. For societies, for the younger generations living in them. The price is heavy, believe me. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.