British MP's are pigs

[micky1up]

Originally Posted by Prof

Have you considered that the expenses might be justified? If my job required me to travel all over the country (or internationally), live away from home for large portions of the year or employ my own staff, of course I'd claim the expenses back.

Your rant appears to be based on the assumption that all this extra money goes into MPs' pockets. I'm prepared to accept that some of them might be on the fiddle, but that doesn't mean they all are.

Oh, and did you ever believe that Labour would be tough on crime? I certainly didn't, which is why I've never voted for them.

these expenses are not justified one bit

[CB..]

Looks to me like the Daily mail et all.'s efforts to incite indignation and contempt from
the uninformed masses once again.

can the DM be blamed for echoeing the level of debate we see directly from the house of commons it self? via occasions such as PM's question time etc?

it beggars belief to have to state that the intellectual level and depth of argument given in a DM article no matter how biased (either way..there are other newspapers with other biases) is actualy given with greater depth than that on public display from the Politicians them selves..ie what the politicians accuse each other of in 20 words..the newspaper at least stretch out to a column or two ..one wonders what might occur if the politicians were given a new accord to rule their debates...in that they remain speaking for no less than 5 minutes before interruption is allowed
with the caveat as a balance ..that if they cannot speak about the subject for the full 5 minutes they shall not be allowed the opportunity to speak in the first place...

why?

because if they cannot speak for that length of time on a subject of professional interest then they should be sacked immediately anyway....and again the caveat that if the opposition cannot remain silent for that length of time and listen then they haven't truly considered what was being said in any manner other than to claim indifference or contempt for what was being said..this goes either way...

we do expect our politicians to have thought about their political decisions...and if they have thought about them then they must be able to string a half decent sentence or two about why and how those decisions were arrived at..(without resorting to the assistance of spin doctors)

this myth that any one party is better than another with no middle ground is mere propoganda propogated (ahem) in order to elicit said emotional response from the public...other wise no one would have any reason to vote one way or another...
sadly this cr*p is what passes for politics ..us and them either or...black white "for or against" and it is wholy useless in the real world..in fact it is worse than useless ..it's an insult and should be treated with the contempt it deserve no matter where it eminates from..before we end up voting for our government on some insane version of "big brother" or the "X-Factor"

what i mean here is that it is what happens in the House of Commons itself that sets the tome to be repeated by the rest of the media..and sadly slowly over time the reverse has also become true...creating a whirlpool of meaningless soap opera nonsense where there should be genuine intelligent debate..whew what a scorcher...

[Jimbuna]

Politics.....Often such an entertaining word

[August]

I might be off base here but the presence of the letter "u" in Labor was a pretty blatent tip off...

[Letum]

Originally Posted by August

I might be off base here but the presence of the letter "u" in Labor was a pretty blatent tip off...

American settlers took words across the Atlantic, but not the correct spelling of them.
Perhaps there wasn't room.

[Tchocky]

Reality - 9 of the top ten have constituencies in Scotland, and similiarly far-away-from-London places.

Sorry, English language.

[bigboywooly]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Reality - 9 of the top ten have constituencies in Scotland, and similiarly far-away-from-London places.

Sorry, English language.

Ummm dont Scottish constituencies come under the Scottish parliament now

:hmm:

No
They have their own parliament up there YET still attend the one in London
So whats the point of the Scottish parliament ?

[Letum]

Originally Posted by bigboywooly

Ummm dont Scottish constituencies come under the Scottish parliament now

No
They have their own parliament up there YET still attend the one in London

Thats because decisions that are made in London effect Scotland.

Originally Posted by bigboywooly

So whats the point of the Scottish parliament ?

.....to legislate Scottish law?

[Jimbuna]

In the words of Mr Wallace...FREEDOM!!

[micky1up]

except his words were not about freedom as we see it but not paying taxes man get you history right and dont believe the ramblings of autrailian directors

[Jimbuna]

Yer right......been watchin too many of his anti Brit films of late

[bigboywooly]

Duplication of resources

If motions affecting Scotland still need to be made in London then no need for the Scottish Parliament

Typical waste of OUR money

[Letum]

Originally Posted by bigboywooly

Duplication of resources

If motions affecting Scotland still need to be made in London then no need for the Scottish Parliament

Typical waste of OUR money

Thats a little like saying that if decisions that effect Swindon still need to be made in London then no need for the Swindon District Council.

[bigboywooly]

There isnt
lol

But moving along

The Scottish still have local councils\authorities too
The Scottish parliament hasnt done away with them
Just added an extra tier of bureaucracy

No wonder 9 out of the top 10 expence artists are Scottish
All that travelling between the UK and Scottish parliament

I wonder if that means they have to have 3 homes :hmm:

[Letum]

Originally Posted by bigboywooly

There isnt
lol

....there is....

Swindon Council