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Old 10-23-07, 10:49 AM   #1
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Originally Posted by Chock
I think you might have misunderstood what I was referring to here, and you'll certainly get an argument from anyone in the medical profession if you suggest that 'no one dies from shock like this -ever'. Shock is a recognised medical condition (not to be confused with the mental condition of shock, or the impact power of a bullet hit). Medical shock most certainly can, and indeed is, fatal if not treated.

Typically, it proceeds like this: The blood flow is disrupted, leading to a lack of oxygen and nutrients getting to vital organs, and this leads to localised cell damage as metabollic acidosis takes place from cellular 'leakage'. When this happens the body tries to compensate, and this kicks in things such as hyperventilating, with the body trying to get rid of excessive CO2 levels, so adrenaline is released and the heart rate increases to allow this to circulate to vital organs (which is why a shock victim will often have skin which feels cold and clammy), in a few cases this can bring on a heart attack, but what is more likely, is that the overworked systems of the body will begin to fail and this can (and does) lead to very serious damage, such as permanent irreversible damage at a cellular level, and that includes brain damage. And you can get all this from things much less severe than a bullet wound.

If you think shock cannot kill, then you'd better inform every medical facility around the world, as it will be news to them.

Chock
Excuse me. I thought you were referring to Sanow's version of it in which it incapacitates the victim that has been shot. Shock as you describe can take a very long time to onset with non vital hit . Much longer than any gun battle or immediate threat to ones self. You can deal at a hospital with what you describe later on. The only 'Surefire' way to stop a fight is to hit a vital or the nervous system. This will result in incapacitation due to loss of blood in about 20 seconds, or instant incapacitation from a shot to the nervous system. No other way to reliably bring down an attacker because you cannot rely on his mental capacity of simply being shot to do the job for you as the human body is amazingly resilient to damage. That is what I was describing.

Sorry for the lack of communication.

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