Oh oh...not again

tater · 10-21-07, 04:52 PM

Campaign steals would be easy to spot if they are ICL or RSRD since the randomly generated zig-zags are literally a fingerprint. lurker or I could run any of our working layers for either mod through the ACE with the exact same script he used for his release, and I used for mine, and the layers would look different every time. His more than mine, actually, because I think he randomized the contact reports and spawn rates more than I did.

None the less, who cares? How many could they possibly sell? Anyone looking hard enough to find their site would have first found subsim, and realized they could get better stuff for free.

The only really interesting stuff they have (to me) are ships. They look to be fairly simple (for the folks who do such stuff) bashes of stock ships. When S3D does 3d, many more of us will be capable of such ship bashing I bet.

tater

mrbeast · 10-21-07, 05:04 PM

The ships are pretty poor really, about as good as that Tenyru CL thats on the mods list, ie they don't look much like the ships they are supposed to.

Take, Tone its missing a turret, so the really unique point of her and her sister, the fact that they had 4 turrets fore, isn't there. The Matsu DE has the wrong turrets too. Thats even worse as the correct HA 5" turrets are already available in SH4! Just shows that they took only a most casual reguard to ressearch.

MONOLITH · 10-21-07, 05:10 PM

*Waves to Ducimus*

Welcome back.

AVGWarhawk · 10-21-07, 05:48 PM

Yep, history to repeat itself. Just swell, just great

FIREWALL · 10-21-07, 07:17 PM

Good to see ya Duce.

Who is this asshat " duckamess " and what kinda crap is he sellin.

John Channing · 10-21-07, 07:27 PM

I have a funny feeing I am wasting my breath, but I gotta try anyway.

Any chance we could keep at least a thin veneer of civility on this discussion until someone is in posession of all of the facts?

Any chance at all?

JCC

Takao · 10-21-07, 07:51 PM

Talk about a cheap hatchet job. Has anyone looked at the ship screenies for the Tone and Mogami class heavy cruisers. The Tone had four main turrets all mounted forward of the superstructure, the screen cap shows a modified Mogami model mounting only three turrets. The Mogami cruiser, I'm guessing, is supposed to be based on the ship prior to the Japanese converting her to a seaplane carrier. But the screen cap shows the turrets mounted on the flight deck.

This is certainly not the kind of quality I would pay for.

tater · 10-21-07, 07:56 PM

Yeah, the ships are the kind of Q&D stand-ins that might be useful while waiting for a real model.

Like my use of Evarts with all the guns, sailors, etc, changed to IJN stuff for a Kaibokan C/D. (worth what you paid for it

Took 15 minutes, and fills a need. When we get a real one (and we will

, it will go away.

tater

SteamWake · 10-21-07, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Channing

I have a funny feeing I am wasting my breath, but I gotta try anyway.

Any chance we could keep at least a thin veneer of civility on this discussion until someone is in posession of all of the facts?

Any chance at all?

JCC

But wheres the drama in that ? :p

Color me not supprised at this. Wonder which will be available first, patch/update. or the subject of this thread.

Im willing to bet the patch might bork that add on

10-21-07, 05:04 PM	#2
mrbeast Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bolton, UK Posts: 1,236 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The ships are pretty poor really, about as good as that Tenyru CL thats on the mods list, ie they don't look much like the ships they are supposed to. Take, Tone its missing a turret, so the really unique point of her and her sister, the fact that they had 4 turrets fore, isn't there. The Matsu DE has the wrong turrets too. Thats even worse as the correct HA 5" turrets are already available in SH4! Just shows that they took only a most casual reguard to ressearch. __________________

10-21-07, 05:10 PM	#3
MONOLITH Grey Wolf Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 997 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Waves to Ducimus Welcome back. __________________

10-21-07, 05:48 PM	#4
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,274 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Yep, history to repeat itself. Just swell, just great __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

10-21-07, 07:17 PM	#5
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	Good to see ya Duce. Who is this asshat " duckamess " and what kinda crap is he sellin. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

10-21-07, 04:52 PM	#1
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Campaign steals would be easy to spot if they are ICL or RSRD since the randomly generated zig-zags are literally a fingerprint. lurker or I could run any of our working layers for either mod through the ACE with the exact same script he used for his release, and I used for mine, and the layers would look different every time. His more than mine, actually, because I think he randomized the contact reports and spawn rates more than I did. None the less, who cares? How many could they possibly sell? Anyone looking hard enough to find their site would have first found subsim, and realized they could get better stuff for free. The only really interesting stuff they have (to me) are ships. They look to be fairly simple (for the folks who do such stuff) bashes of stock ships. When S3D does 3d, many more of us will be capable of such ship bashing I bet. tater

10-21-07, 07:27 PM	#6
John Channing Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 1998 Posts: 1,846 Downloads: 163 Uploads: 5	I have a funny feeing I am wasting my breath, but I gotta try anyway. Any chance we could keep at least a thin veneer of civility on this discussion until someone is in posession of all of the facts? Any chance at all? JCC

10-21-07, 07:51 PM	#7
Takao Officer Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Reading, PA Posts: 244 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Talk about a cheap hatchet job. Has anyone looked at the ship screenies for the Tone and Mogami class heavy cruisers. The Tone had four main turrets all mounted forward of the superstructure, the screen cap shows a modified Mogami model mounting only three turrets. The Mogami cruiser, I'm guessing, is supposed to be based on the ship prior to the Japanese converting her to a seaplane carrier. But the screen cap shows the turrets mounted on the flight deck. This is certainly not the kind of quality I would pay for.

10-21-07, 07:56 PM	#8
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Yeah, the ships are the kind of Q&D stand-ins that might be useful while waiting for a real model. Like my use of Evarts with all the guns, sailors, etc, changed to IJN stuff for a Kaibokan C/D. (worth what you paid for it Took 15 minutes, and fills a need. When we get a real one (and we will , it will go away. tater