Middle Class England

STEED · 10-17-07, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Happy Times

Looking from outside, England is the most heavily classed society in Europe.

Well I am one of the few who will never recognize this clap trap class system, or to put it another way I want nothing to do with this discrimination.

Captain Nemo · 10-17-07, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by STEED

Well I am one of the few who will never recognize this clap trap class system, or to put it another way I want nothing to do with this discrimination.

Steed, I always thought you were an outright Tory, but you are beginning to sound like a communist:hmm: .

Nemo

STEED · 10-17-07, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Nemo

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Originally Posted by STEED

Well I am one of the few who will never recognize this clap trap class system, or to put it another way I want nothing to do with this discrimination.

Steed, I always thought you were an outright Tory, but you are beginning to sound like a communist:hmm: .

Nemo

WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No way :rotfl:

As for the three main party's they all stink and I would not vote for any of them.

AntEater · 10-17-07, 07:34 AM

Middle class England?
Is there still such a thing?
I thought Thatcher did away with everything between extremely rich and extremely poor...

And from outside there seem to be only the prawn sandwich brigade and the "ten german bombers" singing pie and mash eating crowd, with a growing number of strange people sporting strange beards and occasionally blowing themselves up in between...

Captain Nemo · 10-17-07, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by STEED

As for the three main party's they all stink and I would not vote for any of them.

Agree with you on that.

Nemo

micky1up · 10-17-07, 07:59 AM

the truely rich are ok they are nice people the middle classs who social climb now they are tossers stamping on any one to get what they want ,me i from working classs origins realistic and fair to others the middle classs can drink themselves to death for all i care

jumpy · 10-17-07, 01:38 PM

I always looked at the class system in this country as a product of economics, and not birth or family origins.
Anecdotally the 'middle classes' are never quite on an even keel - they earn too much to get any help from the government (unlike the working class), yet they earn too little to not worry about where the next bill is coming from, unlike the upper class.
The truly poor get all the state help available, whilst the truly rich enjoy a life free from the burdens of financial frugality. Those who lie somewhere in-between get shafted by the government in taxes and lack of assistance. Is it any surprise that today's take on the class system is as it is? If you're 'middle class' you have to work like a dog to get anywhere secure and break even.

Seems about right to me. I don't consider myself to be any particular class (though I have been described as having a 'posh accent' - no, I just don't have a regional twang to the way I speak), however I fit nicely into the financial bracket of earning too little to be truly comfortable and too much to get a break from the government or local council. I get taxed the most 'because I can afford it', but only just.

Jimbuna · 10-17-07, 01:51 PM

England is a classless society.....just so long as you have enough money

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AntEater Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 936 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Middle class England? Is there still such a thing? I thought Thatcher did away with everything between extremely rich and extremely poor... And from outside there seem to be only the prawn sandwich brigade and the "ten german bombers" singing pie and mash eating crowd, with a growing number of strange people sporting strange beards and occasionally blowing themselves up in between... __________________

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jumpy Admiral Join Date: May 2003 Location: Midlands, UK Posts: 2,139 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	I always looked at the class system in this country as a product of economics, and not birth or family origins. Anecdotally the 'middle classes' are never quite on an even keel - they earn too much to get any help from the government (unlike the working class), yet they earn too little to not worry about where the next bill is coming from, unlike the upper class. The truly poor get all the state help available, whilst the truly rich enjoy a life free from the burdens of financial frugality. Those who lie somewhere in-between get shafted by the government in taxes and lack of assistance. Is it any surprise that today's take on the class system is as it is? If you're 'middle class' you have to work like a dog to get anywhere secure and break even. Seems about right to me. I don't consider myself to be any particular class (though I have been described as having a 'posh accent' - no, I just don't have a regional twang to the way I speak), however I fit nicely into the financial bracket of earning too little to be truly comfortable and too much to get a break from the government or local council. I get taxed the most 'because I can afford it', but only just. __________________ when you’ve been so long in the desert, any water, no matter how brackish, looks like life

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Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,539 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	England is a classless society.....just so long as you have enough money __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

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micky1up Captain Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: helensburgh Posts: 525 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	the truely rich are ok they are nice people the middle classs who social climb now they are tossers stamping on any one to get what they want ,me i from working classs origins realistic and fair to others the middle classs can drink themselves to death for all i care