AA & AF balancing woes

Galanti · 10-04-07, 06:43 AM

Argh, I just can't seem to find the right balance between image quality and perofrmance with AA and AF. For the longest time I ran 4x of each, but ever since the ROW mod, my subs external wires seem jaggy and shimmery. I've tried all the rivatuner settings I can think of for my 7950GT (using drivers only a couple of versions old) and 8x or 16x AA will do the job, but at a huge price in performance.

What's everyone else using, and do you find the wires/cables/stays on ships and your sub are awfully jaggy at all but point-blank range?

AVGWarhawk · 10-04-07, 08:37 AM

Almost sounds like the AA is not being forced. Try one thing, remove ROW and see if the smoothness is back. If it is the same then you need to look elsewhere for the nonforcing of AA.

Galanti · 10-04-07, 08:52 AM

It's definately being forced, i've tried it on and off and the difference is glaring.

I guess my real issue is the wires on the ships, they're pretty jaggy and shimmery at the default zoom level in free camera, no matter what I do in Rivatuner.

It looks as though it probably has to do with LOD, I've got it maxed in game, and still have to zoom right up the sub or ship to get solid wires.
My thought is that perhaps the new camera in ROW has changed the field of view to a point where LOD becomes impacted.

Beh, it's definately not a showstopper, nor a reason not to use ROW, I'll disable the camera tonight and see if there's a change. I've also noticed AA in Nvidia cards doesn't seem to look nearly as good as ATI AA.

AVGWarhawk · 10-04-07, 09:02 AM

I run just 2x on my X1300. As far as LOD is that not just for land and land objects?

Galanti · 10-04-07, 11:48 AM

Ah, that would explain it, I wonder if there is a hidden tweak to boost the LOD of your sub.

How are your wires and cables in game with 2x AA?

AVGWarhawk · 10-04-07, 12:31 PM

Between no AA and 2x there is a very noticable difference in jaggie lines and wires. I know right off the bat if the AA is not working so it is that noticable. If I go to 4x my FPS will drop too much. Thing here is I'm using an ATI with the ATI tool tray. In way we are comparing apples and oranges when it comes to cards and specific settings. Need to get some of the guys with Nvidia cards in here.

10-04-07, 06:43 AM	#1
Galanti Captain Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ottawa Posts: 536 Downloads: 106 Uploads: 0	AA & AF balancing woes Argh, I just can't seem to find the right balance between image quality and perofrmance with AA and AF. For the longest time I ran 4x of each, but ever since the ROW mod, my subs external wires seem jaggy and shimmery. I've tried all the rivatuner settings I can think of for my 7950GT (using drivers only a couple of versions old) and 8x or 16x AA will do the job, but at a huge price in performance. What's everyone else using, and do you find the wires/cables/stays on ships and your sub are awfully jaggy at all but point-blank range?

10-04-07, 08:37 AM	#2
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,257 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Almost sounds like the AA is not being forced. Try one thing, remove ROW and see if the smoothness is back. If it is the same then you need to look elsewhere for the nonforcing of AA. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

10-04-07, 09:02 AM	#4
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,257 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	I run just 2x on my X1300. As far as LOD is that not just for land and land objects? __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

10-04-07, 12:31 PM	#6
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,257 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Between no AA and 2x there is a very noticable difference in jaggie lines and wires. I know right off the bat if the AA is not working so it is that noticable. If I go to 4x my FPS will drop too much. Thing here is I'm using an ATI with the ATI tool tray. In way we are comparing apples and oranges when it comes to cards and specific settings. Need to get some of the guys with Nvidia cards in here. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

10-04-07, 08:52 AM	#3
Galanti Captain Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ottawa Posts: 536 Downloads: 106 Uploads: 0	It's definately being forced, i've tried it on and off and the difference is glaring. I guess my real issue is the wires on the ships, they're pretty jaggy and shimmery at the default zoom level in free camera, no matter what I do in Rivatuner. It looks as though it probably has to do with LOD, I've got it maxed in game, and still have to zoom right up the sub or ship to get solid wires. My thought is that perhaps the new camera in ROW has changed the field of view to a point where LOD becomes impacted. Beh, it's definately not a showstopper, nor a reason not to use ROW, I'll disable the camera tonight and see if there's a change. I've also noticed AA in Nvidia cards doesn't seem to look nearly as good as ATI AA.

10-04-07, 11:48 AM	#5
Galanti Captain Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ottawa Posts: 536 Downloads: 106 Uploads: 0	Ah, that would explain it, I wonder if there is a hidden tweak to boost the LOD of your sub. How are your wires and cables in game with 2x AA?