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Old 10-02-07, 06:53 AM   #1
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I think the point is not whether RL skippers would have tried this but could they? Would the scope not have flooded by extending it a depth much below perisope depth? Would a RL skipper have been willing to try that if it mean't disabling his scope?
Excellent point. Although it is obvious that the scope must be built to stand the pressure, would the act of extending it a few inches out of the shears cause flooding? How could we ever determine that? Tater? Ducimus? Nuke sub vets? Diesel sub vets? Anyone? HELLLLLLLPPPPPPP!!!!!
I'll have to do a bit of research into the plausibility of this.
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Old 10-02-07, 07:17 AM   #2
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Here's the old debate; just for reference...


http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...ight=periscope
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Old 10-02-07, 08:38 AM   #3
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And here's a reference on the net about a technique of taking snapshots through a periscope while underwater. I have no time to research the technique right now, but this should be a hint for those interested by what can be seen through the scope.
http://www.theconservativezone.com/2005/01/oops_3.html
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Old 10-02-07, 09:06 AM   #4
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IIRC during the original SH, the scope automatically retracted during dives below PD...and...when trying to raise the scope at depth, The XO or COB would warn you that you were too deep for it's use.

...but like others... I've been using this technique since SH2.

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Old 10-02-07, 09:09 AM   #5
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Yea I remember the previous thread. Still Its a "Fun" thing to do.

I'm not 'yelling' at anyone or telling them how to play, hell make your sub fly if you want.

But I think though (as I had said in the previous thread) that in real life you would be lucky to see the end of your boat much less the surface at 300 feet.

Also isnt there some kind of limitation at what depth the scope(s) could be raised without blowing out the seals ?

Oh and the running into land at high TC geee... Ive 'never' done that... heh no.... never... well okay maybe a couple of times. Usually after loading a saved game and forgetting I have to 'remind' the helmsman to follow a plotted course.
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Old 10-02-07, 09:55 AM   #6
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So is water clarity a constant in SH4? How about with ROW?

Thank you mrbeast and dcb for shedding some light on the subject. SteamWake, yell if you wish, just do it in your normal good humor. After all I was a bit over the top on my second post. Was I abusive? Hope not.....NO! I WASN'T!!:rotfl:

Looking forward to the research on real submarines. This is getting interesting!:p

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Old 10-02-07, 10:17 AM   #7
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So is water clarity a constant in SH4? How about with ROW?

Thank you mrbeast and dcb for shedding some light on the subject. SteamWake, yell if you wish, just do it in your normal good humor. After all I was a bit over the top on my second post. Was I abusive? Hope not.....NO! I WASN'T!!:rotfl:

Looking forward to the research on real submarines. This is getting interesting!:p
Heh I was referencing Monolith's post. Bit touchy ?

Im no submarine expert but my gut instinct is that it would be a bad idea to raise a scope at 300'.
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Old 10-02-07, 03:11 PM   #8
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Heh I was referencing Monolith's post. Bit touchy ?

Im no submarine expert but my gut instinct is that it would be a bad idea to raise a scope at 300'.
No! (ahem) I mean not touchy at all.... Actually if we get touchy AVG will be on us like rust on a conning tower and we'll all be sent to bed without supper. Luckily I have a laptop with SH4 on it hidden under the covers that he doesn't know about.

I just raise the scope far enough to clear the shears, maybe 12 inches. And then there's rotation and elevation to consider with possible leaky seals. I hope someone comes back with some research showing whether that could be done. I'm going to check out the actual periscope manual when I get home to see if it has a clue. I also seem to remember that some field teardown and repair was possible at sea.
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I'm not 'yelling' at anyone or telling them how to play, hell make your sub fly if you want.
Oh, I know.


I was exxaggerating a bit for effect. Poetic license and all that. :rotfl:
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