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The Avon Lady · 10-01-07, 01:42 PM

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I understood you clearly. To which I repeat:

Unbelievable moral equivalency rubbish.

Are you skirting the issue by rubbishing it or do you think that the ends is always a justification for the means?

On the contrary! Ends don't justify means should be almost an ironclad rule. There was nothing wrong or evil in the means used by the US in dropping the A-bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. That's exactly the point!

Letum · 10-01-07, 01:58 PM

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I understood you clearly. To which I repeat:

Unbelievable moral equivalency rubbish.

Are you skirting the issue by rubbishing it or do you think that the ends is always a justification for the means?

On the contrary! Ends don't justify means should be almost an ironclad rule. There was nothing wrong or evil in the means used by the US in dropping the A-bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. That's exactly the point!

:hmm: So it was a justification in it's self?
I don't understand?

Isn't the only reason for a action to achive something other than the action it's self?

STEED · 10-01-07, 02:02 PM

Pass me the popcorn and that can of beer, we got a hot thread here people.

Jimbuna · 10-01-07, 02:46 PM

Morts · 10-01-07, 02:55 PM

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Pass me the popcorn and that can of beer, we got a hot thread here people.

hey pass me a beer Steed...oh wait...im not allowed to drink yet:rotfl:
then give me some of that popcorn of yours:rotfl:

kurtz · 10-02-07, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Letum

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I understood you clearly. To which I repeat:

Unbelievable moral equivalency rubbish.

Are you skirting the issue by rubbishing it or do you think that the ends is always a justification for the means?

On the contrary! Ends don't justify means should be almost an ironclad rule. There was nothing wrong or evil in the means used by the US in dropping the A-bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. That's exactly the point!

:hmm: So it was a justification in it's self?
I don't understand?

Isn't the only reason for a action to achive something other than the action it's self?

With the A bomb I'd look at it like this the nuke kills X number of people, the prolongation of the war kills Y number of people, if Y>X then drop bomb.

I'd probably introduce a scaling factor for X to represent them being baddies and starting the war, or am I being simplistic again?

Letum · 10-02-07, 03:19 AM

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I understood you clearly. To which I repeat:

Unbelievable moral equivalency rubbish.

Are you skirting the issue by rubbishing it or do you think that the ends is always a justification for the means?

On the contrary! Ends don't justify means should be almost an ironclad rule. There was nothing wrong or evil in the means used by the US in dropping the A-bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. That's exactly the point!

:hmm: So it was a justification in it's self?
I don't understand?

Isn't the only reason for a action to achive something other than the action it's self?

With the A bomb I'd look at it like this the nuke kills X number of people, the prolongation of the war kills Y number of people, if Y>X then drop bomb.

I'd probably introduce a scaling factor for X to represent them being baddies and starting the war, or am I being simplistic again?

Hehe....you haven't read the rest of the thread have you?

10-01-07, 02:02 PM	#3
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