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[Letum]

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

Unbelievable moral equivalency rubbish.

You must see the relation in terms of:
"No price is too great to pay and no brutality too horrible to inflict if it can be justified
that the good will be so much more than the evil needed to impose it.".

That is usualy the main justification for Hiroshima. No?

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by Letum

You must see the relation in terms of:
"No price is too great to pay and no brutality too horrible to inflict if it can be justified
that the good will be so much more than the evil needed to impose it.".

That is usualy the main justification for Hiroshima. No?

No. According to you, one is forced to assume that use of the bombs then was evil in some way.

[Letum]

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

No. According to you, one is forced to assume that use of the bombs then was evil in some way.

I'm not saying that bombs are evil, I'm just questioning the status-quo that a bomb, or
any other brutality can be justified by the greater good it will achieve.

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by Letum

I'm not saying that bombs are evil, I'm just questioning the status-quo that a bomb, or
any other brutality can be justified by the greater good it will achieve.

I understood you clearly. To which I repeat:

Unbelievable moral equivalency rubbish.

[Letum]

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

I understood you clearly. To which I repeat:

Unbelievable moral equivalency rubbish.

Are you skirting the issue by rubbishing it or do you think that the ends is always a justification for the means?

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by Letum

Are you skirting the issue by rubbishing it or do you think that the ends is always a justification for the means?

On the contrary! Ends don't justify means should be almost an ironclad rule. There was nothing wrong or evil in the means used by the US in dropping the A-bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. That's exactly the point!

[Letum]

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

On the contrary! Ends don't justify means should be almost an ironclad rule. There was nothing wrong or evil in the means used by the US in dropping the A-bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. That's exactly the point!

:hmm: So it was a justification in it's self?
I don't understand?

Isn't the only reason for a action to achive something other than the action it's self?