Man tears down Mexican flag

[DeepIron]

antikristuseke, your profile says "estland" so I'm assuming Estonia?, north of Latvia and west of Russia? Interesting thing about the Estonian flag:

(1) If the Estonian Flag is raised with other flags, the Estonian flag must be at a position of superior prominence or honour.

Not so different from the US I guess... And I mean no disrespect, we all have our laws...

I agree that illegal imigrants are a problem, but im pretty sure that the Mexican government isnt sending them to the US in an act of agression.

Let's put it this way, the Mexican Federal govenment isn't stopping them... and has even gone as far as condemming the US for wanting to put a fence along the border as a barrier...

Or this reported by CNN: "Mexican President Felipe Calderon Sunday demanded the United States surrender its sovereignty, abandon the rule of law and accede to Mexico's inherent supremacy."

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/09/04/Dob...ref=newssearch

If that's not a threat, I don't know what is...

[SUBMAN1]

Just my 2 cents - Iwo Jima vs public schools. Same symbol, same moral boost, same message. Not sure who said it above, but they are dead wrong to think otherwise.

-S

[sunvalleyslim]

I have two residences, each in a different country. One in the United States of America, and one in Mexico.
While in America I fly the American Flag at my home, and no other. However it is acceptable to fly another countrys flag, so long as the American Flag is flown, and at a higher position than the other countries flag.
While in Mexico I fly the Mexican flag out of respect for that country. I do not fly a U.S. Flag while in Mexico. However I believe it would be permissable if flown below the Mexican Flag.
Inside my Mexico Casa (home) I have a U.S. Flag, Mexican flag, and POW banner, hanging from the ceiling in the living room.

To me it's about respect to others and their countries. Unfortunately respect has diminished over the ears for just about everything...........

[Kapitan_Phillips]

In my opinion, flags can be flown for just about any country for which you are proud, however, if for example you're living in the United States (as I will be, soon) I will respect the Stars and Stripes as well as respect my own Union Jack. It is a matter of respect - you shouldnt be required to fly the country's flag, but you shouldnt complain when it is, either.

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

THis shows pride in our country and represents pride. THe fact a Mexican flag is flying above our schools with no American or state flag tells me there is deep problems in that society. Scary.

-S

Yeah, I think the US is rotting from within. I'm amazed how brazenly illegal immigrants and their US supporters are pushing us to legalize 12 million. It won't be long before the demographics shift enough for them to rewrite our immigration laws.

[DeepIron]

Yeah, I think the US is rotting from within. I'm amazed how brazenly illegal immigrants and their US supporters are pushing us to legalize 12 million.

If there were only $ome rea$on for the$e effort$...

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by DeepIron

Patriotism covers such attitudes as: pride in its achievements and culture, the desire to preserve its character and the basis of the culture, and identification with other members of the nation.

Acceptable even for me, although where I agree on the "desire to preserve" and "identification" part, I would point out that you cannot be proud on something you haven't acchieved yourself, and cannot be proud of what others acchieved in your place (but you can feel lucky to be able to take benefit from it). But let's not be too picky, replace "pride" in the above definition with "respecting a historical acchievement due to the results of reasonable analysis and finding it convincing and good", and get a drink.

Some French guy, name is on my tongue, said something like "patriotism is love to your people, nationalism is hate on the other people". This should not be forgotten.

I just wonder where this strange yearning of people for symbols is coming from. This piece-of-textile-flying-in-the-wind-thing gives me a hard time, and yes, I believe some people make a cult of it. Which means the symbol has taken over from what it originally was pointing at, and form becomes more important than content.

Never something good came from switching off brains. But especially monuments and flags help in that. In other words: pathos.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Yeah, I think the US is rotting from within. I'm amazed how brazenly illegal immigrants and their US supporters are pushing us to legalize 12 million. It won't be long before the demographics shift enough for them to rewrite our immigration laws.

Different to Europe, at least most of your newcomers are Catholics.

[DeepIron]

That's hardly consoling, considering the current view of the Cathoic Church on birth control...

"Contraception is wrong because it’s a deliberate violation of the design God built into the human race, often referred to as "natural law."

However here I will draw my own line and not drag religion further into this...

[Letum]

Originally Posted by DeepIron

That's hardly consoling, considering the current view of the Cathoic Church on birth control...

"Contraception is wrong because it’s a deliberate violation of the design God built into the human race, often referred to as "natural law."

However here I will draw my own line and not drag religion further into this...

You talk about religion and the announce that you won't talk about religion.

[baggygreen]

Lets just leave religion out of this one hey?

[Skybird]

I was not so much about religion, but about briefly indicating the cultual nearness or strangeness of newcomers. don't take it as a serious remark on religon exclusively. Remember, I entered a " " at the end.

[Tchocky]

My school didn't have any flag. My university flies three, the Irish tricolour, the EU flag, and the university's flag.

If I saw a person ripping down a flag, any flag, my first thoughts would lean towards "...idiot.", then possibly some consideration of legality.

[baggygreen]

OH i know you did sky, but i was more worried about an interesting debate on the significance of flags and different peoples opinions on that being turned into yet another religion-based, locked thread

Following what i said earlier about the aussie flag, I do get the sh!ts when i see the aboriginal flag and the torres strait islander flags being flown above or worse, instead of the aussie flag. I have aboriginal blood running through the veins, but to my way of thinking those 2 flags are so exclusive. the aussie flag encompasses anyone who wants to call themselves australian... not so with the others.

I remember when i was at school we had 2 flagpoles, one normally had the aussie flag and the other flew the international version of my school flag. come to NAIDOC week and down comes those 2, up go the aboriginal and torres strait islander flags, and i stormed straight into the deputy head's office and demanded that the national flag fly. didnt go so well....

[DeepIron]

Sorry dudes, I forgot the at the end of my post...

From now on, I promise NOT to forget the at the end of any my posts or responses that might in any way construe or allude to an opinion concerning religion.

So help me God.

LOL...

[EDIT] Please don't take this post seriously. I'm just having a bit of fun here...