Simple Question: VIIB or VIIC - Page 3

mowgli99 · 09-13-07, 03:36 PM

Well ya i like the look, more fuel and fish of the IX but the VIIs manuver superbly (surface and submerged) and tend to be put under the waves. The VIIs also arent as easily detected i think. Anyway they are both fantastic and i will use each dependent on which area of the world i feel like crusing.

sunvalleyslim · 09-13-07, 06:38 PM

Type VIIC, and Type IX......the best of the best

Iron Budokan · 09-13-07, 07:25 PM

Everyone knows the frauleins back home dig the VIIC.

mowgli99 · 09-13-07, 08:02 PM

giggity, giggity, giggity!:rotfl: :rotfl:

Woof1701 · 09-14-07, 04:53 AM

Normally I tend to start with a Typ II, upgrade to a Typ VII B when it becomes available in my flotilla and upgrade in late 1941 to a Typ IX so that I can be on the U.S. coast on December 7 1941. I tend to stick to the Typ IX till late 1942 or early 1943 and then switch back to a Typ VII C since it can dive and turn more quickly. The Typ IX simply is too ungainly for me for evading escorts. I simply feel safer in the Typ VII and since I tend to get damaged on a regular basis I often have to return to base before I spent all my eels. Sometimes I also stay with the Typ IX till the Typ VII C/41 is available.

Jimbuna · 09-14-07, 06:49 AM

The one and only.................................. Type IX

.........:p

Avatar · 09-18-07, 02:28 PM

OK, so I'm a bit head strong, or hard headed:hmm:, but I'm still in a type VIIB in Nov. 41. Right now my latest upgrade was the anti-sonar coating. If I can make at least one or two more patrols I'll find out if I get radar and the new sonar that is on the 2nd page of the upgrades page. You know the one, that has the timeline of availability? We'll just have to see. So far I cant see any reason for upgrading just for new conning towers because I always alarm dive when aircraft are spotted.
I'm not sure about engine upgrades.

Is there such a thing as a real printable page that has all the uboat types and the availability of all upgrades(engines, sonar, radar, detectars)?

BelegDraug · 09-18-07, 03:04 PM

Well.. I just wanna thanks all, and say that now I'm a proud member of the IXB lodge... It's a really good jump the change on eels and distances one can mange. Thanks again to all of you for the advice.-

We're taking damage! · 09-18-07, 03:28 PM

I have played mainly with the VII's and a very little bit with the II's. Have used the bigger boats only rarely in careers.

I have kept with the VIIB as late as '42, figured by then it's been through enough and it's time for a shiny new VIIC.

My latest career is still in '39, this time around I will be getting into the bigger boats as soon as I can.

Anyways, here is a picture that will settle it once and for all: a race between a VIIC and an IXC!

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...nt/subrace.jpg

Avatar · 09-18-07, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by We're taking damage!

Anyways, here is a picture that will settle it once and for all: a race between a VIIC and an IXC!

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...nt/subrace.jpg

Haha! LOL.

Jimbuna · 09-19-07, 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by We're taking damage!

I have played mainly with the VII's and a very little bit with the II's. Have used the bigger boats only rarely in careers.

I have kept with the VIIB as late as '42, figured by then it's been through enough and it's time for a shiny new VIIC.

My latest career is still in '39, this time around I will be getting into the bigger boats as soon as I can.

Anyways, here is a picture that will settle it once and for all: a race between a VIIC and an IXC!

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...nt/subrace.jpg

......................:hmm:

looney · 09-19-07, 04:49 AM

Now which one won?

U-96 · 09-21-07, 05:35 AM

In terms of performance the VIIB is a tad quicker and more agile, but it's also more fragile, and you can't dive as deep. The type VIIC has a little more range as well as a slightly deeper depth limit at the cost of abit of surface speed and a negligable reduction in submerged speed. You'll have more oppertunities with the VIIC since you can travel further with it.

Also ,as others correctly mentioned, You have more upgrades available with the VIIC. So while you have a quicker and more agile boat, it may cost you that extra tonnage later as it's merits quickly become irrelevant since you can't dive as deep and lacking upgrades.

I myself prefer the type IX's and usually save my renown for those. More torpedoes and better a better AA arrangement. Though it's submerged performance does leave abit to be desired. It's also tougher with a much higher inventory of torpedoes. I like to take out the escorts first if I can, then pummel some ships with the 105mm deck gun. It's risky but the potential for tonnage is there with that boat. It's all a question of what your style and preferences.

gordonmull · 09-21-07, 03:28 PM

VIIc as soon as i can afford it. To me an extra 3 seconds on the surface in the VIIb could mean the difference between going back to a IIa out of Wilhelmshaven in 1939 and staying alive. Also she can go deeper...and deeper = safer.

09-13-07, 06:38 PM	#32
sunvalleyslim Ace of the Deep Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Los Angeles, Ca Posts: 1,142 Downloads: 267 Uploads: 0	Type VIIC, and Type IX......the best of the best __________________ Crew member/ decommission member TM2(SS)(SD) 3/68-7/70 DIESEL BOATS FOREVER USS SEGUNDO (SS398)

09-13-07, 07:25 PM	#33
Iron Budokan Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,778 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Everyone knows the frauleins back home dig the VIIC. __________________ "You will take on England wherever you find her ships, and you will break her power at sea." --Iron Coffins, Herbert A. Werner http://kennethmarkhoover.com

09-14-07, 06:49 AM	#36
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 191,142 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	The one and only.................................. Type IX .........:p __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

09-18-07, 03:04 PM	#38
BelegDraug Seaman Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Buenos Aires, ARGENTINA Posts: 34 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 0	Well.. I just wanna thanks all, and say that now I'm a proud member of the IXB lodge... It's a really good jump the change on eels and distances one can mange. Thanks again to all of you for the advice.- __________________ Go and fight bravely, sons of Nemo!

09-13-07, 03:36 PM	#31
mowgli99 Engineer Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 215 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Well ya i like the look, more fuel and fish of the IX but the VIIs manuver superbly (surface and submerged) and tend to be put under the waves. The VIIs also arent as easily detected i think. Anyway they are both fantastic and i will use each dependent on which area of the world i feel like crusing.

09-13-07, 08:02 PM	#34
mowgli99 Engineer Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 215 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	giggity, giggity, giggity!:rotfl: :rotfl:

09-14-07, 04:53 AM	#35
Woof1701 Commodore Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Munich, Germany, Home of U-96 Posts: 633 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Normally I tend to start with a Typ II, upgrade to a Typ VII B when it becomes available in my flotilla and upgrade in late 1941 to a Typ IX so that I can be on the U.S. coast on December 7 1941. I tend to stick to the Typ IX till late 1942 or early 1943 and then switch back to a Typ VII C since it can dive and turn more quickly. The Typ IX simply is too ungainly for me for evading escorts. I simply feel safer in the Typ VII and since I tend to get damaged on a regular basis I often have to return to base before I spent all my eels. Sometimes I also stay with the Typ IX till the Typ VII C/41 is available.

09-18-07, 02:28 PM	#37
Avatar Commodore Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Way out there Posts: 603 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	OK, so I'm a bit head strong, or hard headed:hmm:, but I'm still in a type VIIB in Nov. 41. Right now my latest upgrade was the anti-sonar coating. If I can make at least one or two more patrols I'll find out if I get radar and the new sonar that is on the 2nd page of the upgrades page. You know the one, that has the timeline of availability? We'll just have to see. So far I cant see any reason for upgrading just for new conning towers because I always alarm dive when aircraft are spotted. I'm not sure about engine upgrades. Is there such a thing as a real printable page that has all the uboat types and the availability of all upgrades(engines, sonar, radar, detectars)?

09-18-07, 03:28 PM	#39
We're taking damage! Nub Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I have played mainly with the VII's and a very little bit with the II's. Have used the bigger boats only rarely in careers. I have kept with the VIIB as late as '42, figured by then it's been through enough and it's time for a shiny new VIIC. My latest career is still in '39, this time around I will be getting into the bigger boats as soon as I can. Anyways, here is a picture that will settle it once and for all: a race between a VIIC and an IXC! http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...nt/subrace.jpg

09-19-07, 04:49 AM	#42
looney Commodore Join Date: May 2007 Location: Sneek, The Netherlands Posts: 635 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Now which one won?

09-21-07, 05:35 AM	#43
U-96 Mate Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada Posts: 53 Downloads: 388 Uploads: 0	In terms of performance the VIIB is a tad quicker and more agile, but it's also more fragile, and you can't dive as deep. The type VIIC has a little more range as well as a slightly deeper depth limit at the cost of abit of surface speed and a negligable reduction in submerged speed. You'll have more oppertunities with the VIIC since you can travel further with it. Also ,as others correctly mentioned, You have more upgrades available with the VIIC. So while you have a quicker and more agile boat, it may cost you that extra tonnage later as it's merits quickly become irrelevant since you can't dive as deep and lacking upgrades. I myself prefer the type IX's and usually save my renown for those. More torpedoes and better a better AA arrangement. Though it's submerged performance does leave abit to be desired. It's also tougher with a much higher inventory of torpedoes. I like to take out the escorts first if I can, then pummel some ships with the 105mm deck gun. It's risky but the potential for tonnage is there with that boat. It's all a question of what your style and preferences.

09-21-07, 03:28 PM	#44
gordonmull Lieutenant Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Scotland Posts: 269 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	VIIc as soon as i can afford it. To me an extra 3 seconds on the surface in the VIIb could mean the difference between going back to a IIa out of Wilhelmshaven in 1939 and staying alive. Also she can go deeper...and deeper = safer.