Invisible Surface Convoys, Ships, Enemy?

SteamWake · 09-14-07, 10:58 AM

First of all welcome to the forums and hope you enjoy your stay...

I agree with Inc most likely aircraft.

Also it can be difficult to grasp the sense of scale on the in game map.

A 'ship' might appear to be right next to you may actually be 20 or so miles away.

tgmalone · 09-14-07, 11:30 AM

What you don't understand is, picture this. You are either surfaced or submerged and you are given notice of warship approaching, you can see the symbol on the navigation map (be it acft or convoy or whatever) . You can continue moving in said direction of identified contact, you can be within shouting distance (unless it is an acft) and I am well aware how fast an aircraft can do you in. However, with an outside camera view there is "nothing" showing but open sea.

How can this be if allegedly you are within a mile or two of a huge convey and no ships show if you use the outside camera view or even the periscope to look around? Now I know using the outside camera view as a heads up is normally not available in real life but since it is available, I would think it could display what should be there!

Never had this problem in SH3.

hyperion2206 · 09-14-07, 11:56 AM

Never had this issue before, perhaps you've got a bad install. You might want to uninstall and then reinstall the game.

SteamWake · 09-14-07, 01:11 PM

You dident mention whom 'gave notice' that a ship was approaching.

Sometimes these contact reports are estimations provided by comsubpac.

They are just that... estimations. Also last known positions. Ships continue to move "away" from that position so some guess work is involved in planning an intercept. Sonar is of great use here as you can hear a hell of a lot further than you can see.

But you should know all that being a vetran of SH3.

tgmalone · 09-14-07, 01:19 PM

How true!

Captain_AJ · 09-14-07, 01:27 PM

You can be a good skipper if you up your level of play . If you dont know how theres a weatlh of Information from Other skippers here ..DAre you try it

Capt. Shark Bait · 09-14-07, 05:37 PM

tgmalone, i'm assuming you know that where the target icon is, that target will have moved in the time it takes to get there. i thought there was a prob when i first started SH4 and realized there was no prob regarding targets. set an intercept course well ahead of the units direction of travel then backtrack along the units base course, at a speed faster that what you think that unit maybe travelling, like maybe flank

09-14-07, 11:30 AM	#2
tgmalone Nub Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	No Ships, Not Aircraft, Nothing! What you don't understand is, picture this. You are either surfaced or submerged and you are given notice of warship approaching, you can see the symbol on the navigation map (be it acft or convoy or whatever) . You can continue moving in said direction of identified contact, you can be within shouting distance (unless it is an acft) and I am well aware how fast an aircraft can do you in. However, with an outside camera view there is "nothing" showing but open sea. How can this be if allegedly you are within a mile or two of a huge convey and no ships show if you use the outside camera view or even the periscope to look around? Now I know using the outside camera view as a heads up is normally not available in real life but since it is available, I would think it could display what should be there! Never had this problem in SH3.

09-14-07, 11:56 AM	#3
hyperion2206 Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Cologne, Germany Posts: 1,227 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Never had this issue before, perhaps you've got a bad install. You might want to uninstall and then reinstall the game. __________________ Career of Captain Jack Shaftoe:

09-14-07, 01:27 PM	#6
Captain_AJ Crusty Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: USA Posts: 649 Downloads: 334 Uploads: 0	Up your level From easy too a harder Setting You can be a good skipper if you up your level of play . If you dont know how theres a weatlh of Information from Other skippers here ..DAre you try it __________________ Captain AJ

09-14-07, 05:37 PM	#7
Capt. Shark Bait Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: in a convergance zone Posts: 1,186 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	tgmalone, i'm assuming you know that where the target icon is, that target will have moved in the time it takes to get there. i thought there was a prob when i first started SH4 and realized there was no prob regarding targets. set an intercept course well ahead of the units direction of travel then backtrack along the units base course, at a speed faster that what you think that unit maybe travelling, like maybe flank __________________ Leiser und tödlicher edler Ritter der Tiefe Corsair Vengeance M70; ASUS Crosshair V Formula-Z; FX 8350; Asus 7870; Samsung SyncMaster 2243SWX; coolmax CUG950B 950w psu; 8GB Kingston HyperX DDR3; Corsair M4 SSD 128GB, WD 1TB; x18 DVR212D; 7SP1

09-14-07, 10:58 AM	#1
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	First of all welcome to the forums and hope you enjoy your stay... I agree with Inc most likely aircraft. Also it can be difficult to grasp the sense of scale on the in game map. A 'ship' might appear to be right next to you may actually be 20 or so miles away.

09-14-07, 01:11 PM	#4
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	You dident mention whom 'gave notice' that a ship was approaching. Sometimes these contact reports are estimations provided by comsubpac. They are just that... estimations. Also last known positions. Ships continue to move "away" from that position so some guess work is involved in planning an intercept. Sonar is of great use here as you can hear a hell of a lot further than you can see. But you should know all that being a vetran of SH3.

09-14-07, 01:19 PM	#5
tgmalone Nub Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	How true!