Peace had come to Germany, but was rejected. How insulting!

[Skybird]

Great. i managed to hijack my own threat.

[joea]

Maybe you have. I have some more anti-Scientology pages in English for folks to peruse if they wish to learn more.

http://home.snafu.de/tilman/index.html#xenu

That page is chock full of links...here is another good one:

http://www.xenu.net/

Some hilarious stuff, some not so funny.

[AntEater]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of Scientology, but I think compared to radical Islam they are a lesser threat.
I mean Scientology wants Influence in the existing society, not to turn the world into another dark age.
I know german firms (law firms, headhunters, basically everything concerning recruiting) who actually have a clause in their contract in which the employee has to state that he is not a member of Scientology and the work contract will terminate if he should become one.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by AntEater

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of Scientology, but I think compared to radical Islam they are a lesser threat.
I mean Scientology wants Influence in the existing society, not to turn the world into another dark age.

I did never hinted you were a fan of scientology.

And Turkish primeminster Erdogan just complained that it is offending to talk of "moderate Islam", as if there are different kinds of Islam, and that one should talk of Islam only, Erdogan said. Referring to his logic I also would recommend not to talk of "radical Islam" anymore, but Islam only. Else they may snap again.

anyone who has a beard should be shot. unless your at sea, then its ok.

and Jesus excluded

and Santa

[sunvalleyslim]

Anteater,
I think you have learned a valuable lesson. PC or not, when you get the "feeling somethings not right", it usually isn't. Always go with what you feel.......
There's also a saying in America about your avatar.........."Are you a German Helmet or an Anteater?" No need to respond except if you understand the saying.........

[joea]

Originally Posted by Swede

anyone who has a beard should be shot. unless your at sea, then its ok.

and Jesus excluded

and Santa

..and Orthodox priests and Confederate re-enactors and ... me.

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by joea

..and Orthodox priests and Confederate re-enactors and ... me.

and.................

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by AntEater

Personally, I've known one converted guy in my whole life and he was a real loser. Some kind of a person who tried out every radical cult there is and got stuck with Islam because they wouldnt let him go again.

"What will be the next phase of the Islamist advance in the West?
If you're a teenager in most European cities these days, you've a choice
between two compelling identities - a robust confident Islamic identity
or a tentative post-nationlist cringingly apologetic European identity.
It would be a mistake to assume the former is attractive only to Arabs
and North Africans."
- America Alone, Mark Steyn, p.90

[Kapitan_Phillips]

Mark Steyn is a fool. I'd like to see him call me an apologetic European to my face. To be perfectly frank with you, a more nationalist approach to this country would be welcomed right now.

[Skybird]

They arrested three and chased 7 others. Than it were ten others they were still chasing. yesterday evening they said on radio that now they were chasing 20. Today, the number was raised to 50. At least, all federal interior ministers are agreeing on putting stays in terror camps under penalty. Our humanistic friends i the SPD and amongst the Greens still see no wrong in getting trained in constructing bombs and masskilling civilians, they say it should not be rushed, and may not be necessary.

Sorry...? Knock-knock on your head, is somebody at home or can I use this place to grow flowers? By German laws, you need to be 21 now to be able to request a permission for a sporting pistol, and there are still the exams you need to pass, and they are very tough on the theory. but booking courses for massmurder is okay...?

Muhammedan speakers in Germany today complained that the minister of justice demanded (once again) Muhammedan communities to report "radicals" in their communities to the police, and said it was insulting to put Islam under "general suspicion". He said that on the same day when a man, reported to speak Arabic, stabbed a Jewish Rabbi in a town in Hessen. Maybe a coincidence, mabye not, remains to be seen. but every European German native is expected to make it known to the police if he gained knowledge of a serious crime being prepared. That is a rule of reason, and not doing so can, eventually, be penalised as "unterlassene Hilfeleistung" and "Mitwisserschaft". Once more, Muhammedan communities demand a special role and special rights for themselves, it seems. Also, this speaker referred to the legal protection of free religious practicing. This includes the protection of "holy sites", like temples. There are some 350 mosques in germany, 2700 assembly centrre that serve in that function as well as centres for events and political activities, and roughly 12.000 additonal Islamic locations, bureauos and official sites and centres of lower state that in any way are listed in official records. Mind you that there is no know separation between politics and religion in islam. The constitution protects churches, synagogues, and mosques. But it goes unopposed and un questioned that, different to Jewish and chistian institutions, those other 2700 islamic centres that are running also poltiical and non-religious events, enjoy protection by the constitution - on the basis of the constitutional law to guarantee "free religion". Don't know if you understand this - I do not. While Islam still is not allowed to raise islamic taxes, it already enjoys more legal protection in Germany than the Christian church. Strange. and I still do not know a single example of a Muslim Imam being stabbed on our streets, or mosques being taken over by Jews of Christians. In colcogne they want to built a mosque which is bigger in size and height than the famous dome, and the imbicile representative of the wellmeaning church hinted that the new windows (free of any christian symbology - and that in a church!) could as well be the windows in a mosque- by which he said nothing different than that he could imagine to turn the dome of Colgone into a Muhammedan mosque. Let's call God "Allah".

Nevertheless Muhammedan communities complain about being put under general suspicion. The speaker of another muslim organization some days ago said he does not care for the violence that is commited in the name of Islam in other countries, for his obligation is with forming a german Islam only. How comfortable. See nothing, hear nothing, tell nothing, like the three monkeys. - "My islam is my fairy-tale-like paradise on earth, so I must not think and take responsebility, and what is beyond it I do not care for." Not my words, no-no!!! That'S how it was put by one of the warehouse detectives in the store I work in, some weeks ago, and he meant it very bitterly. In that agency, they are all coming from the middle east. He is a Kurd, and - still - Muhammedan. Maybe he becomes the fifth Muslim I can eventually talk out of Islam and make him switch his brain back on. He already is full of doubts - good for him, but as always - threats, family, honour...

The foiled terror plot was controlled and masterminded by our trustworthy ally in the war on terror, Pakistan, what now is verified and confirmed by BKA and CIA as well. This just btw. Considering Pakistan to be our friend is like trying to have sex with a poisenous snake.

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by Kapitan_Phillips

Mark Steyn is a fool. I'd like to see him call me an apologetic European to my face.

Watch his predictions mostly come true.

To be perfectly frank with you, a more nationalist approach to this country would be welcomed right now.

Something Steyn advocates. But then again, he's a fool. :hmm: