Peace had come to Germany, but was rejected. How insulting!

[Happy Times]

In english. Though they left out the comment about sharia.

http://www.yle.fi/news/left/id69164.html

[Smaragdadler]

Just Dialectics at work...:
http://www.jungewelt.de/2007/09-06/061.php?print=1
http://de.altermedia.info/general/fk....html#comments

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by Smaragdadler

Just Dialectics at work...:
http://www.jungewelt.de/2007/09-06/061.php?print=1
http://de.altermedia.info/general/fk....html#comments

This is an English language forum. Could you please tell us what this is?

Meanwhile, in

Good luck, Europe!

And the pattern still remains
On the wall where darkness fell,
And it's fitting that it should,
For in darkness I must dwell.
Like the color of my skin,
Or the day that I grow old,
My life is made of patterns
That can scarcely be controlled.
- Patterns, Simon & Garfunkel

[Smaragdadler]

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

This is an English language forum. Could you please tell us what this is?

These are two links to articles in German language.
One from the far political left, one from the far right - praising out beloved Führers for their occult knowledge and prophetical farsight in foreseeing the alien terror which threadens our beloved Volk - even oraceling the exact month beforehand!!!
But also the comerads, these redglowing party-swords of the workingclasses - are full admire-rational suprise in seeing how exact the dilactecis of the historical processs is fullfilling itself before the eyes of us all - in showing how right the goverment was in promoting enforcement of security matters for protections of the civil sector.
Not to forget the heroism of our brave police, who had (of course) the situation under controll, whole of the time (we expect nothing less). They were even able to exchange critical components for the explosives undetected during the observation - cute clever guys.

Edit - some more update (in German):
http://www.freace.de/artikel/200709/060907a.html
http://www.spiegelfechter.com/wordpress/

[Happy Times]

Originally Posted by Happy Times

In english. Though they left out the comment about sharia.

http://www.yle.fi/news/left/id69164.html

It turns out most of the party leadership are converts to islam and ex communists, what does that tell us? Communism, Nazism, Islam..

[Tchocky]

German security services are an equal opportunities arrester

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/...dnap-Claim.php

[Skybird]

German media since yesterday reported that the successful counter terror operation that was just conducted would not have been possible without massively using information by American intel services that were won with those methods (considered as illegal by international standards and as inhumane) germany at the same has massively criticised in the past. So this is my most favourite schizophrenia in German foreign policy again: pointing finger at the US, but at the same time nevertheless enjoying the fruits from questionable harvesting.

The Germans arrested were converts, and on pictures they did not wear beards. It was reported that as a matter of fact they completely failed to fulfill any schemes by which the police tries to identitfy terror suspects. Police said that since some time he problem of converts has alarmed investigators more and more. Converts are under pressure to prove themselves as worthy and as truly Muslim, by their psychology they often feel urged to put any hate they feel on perceived wrongs in the world on a religious basis, namly the hate on the US and on Western values, and who converted though having been raised in Western tradition probably often is somebody who do not want an "Islam light", but the full hardcore package. Officially, 20.000 German convert per year, but unofficially it is estimated that there are AT LEAST 100.000 per year, possibly even up to 150.000. This is probably a two-contrast issue: these kinds of guys as described, on the other hand, are mostly women, who convert because they fell in love with a Muslim man and wanted to marry him. - Strange what love can make people do. I never would do that, at no cost. If the other cannot accept to live with me without me needing to join his ideology in order to accept me in return, then something is wrong from the beginning, I think. i wouldn't care nevertheless, if it wouldn't be so damn many per year.

However, the immenese number of converts has raised problems that have seriously alarmed the security services - for they cannot identify terror suspects by profiling anymore. Note that the same was said about the terrorists in London. they too did not compare with the profiles, but were fully "normal appearing" citizens.

Somebody said that the success of this operation proved that no tighter anti terror rules and methods are needed in Germany (long debate here). But that this operation would not have been possible without massive American intelligence, indicates the exact opposite. but politicians are already in fight again wether the visiting of a terror trainign camp should be under penalty, or not. So you know what to expect from our legislation.

And al Mazri - ah, don't even get me started. He is a tool, and it makes me feel like vomitting that he could manage to get so much attention again and again and again and again from parliamentaries in long conferences and debates. It's all an Islamic-political plot. He refused to become German citizen. after being rleased by the ameicans, he became German citizen all of a sudden, knowing that this would help him to attack the state. His behavior, his private clothing and his beard shows that he does not wish to integrate into German society at all, but at all costs wants to be see as different, and wants to remain separate. A shame how easily some people hostile to the state are given German nationality. Mazri was visiting Pakistani camps, and is supported and financed by german Islamic culture clubs of orthodox nature - well, it is known what these are. Mazri - that name already was far too often in headlines over here.

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by Skybird

and on pictures they did not wear birds.

Beards! Beards!

[Skybird]

Skybeard? I'm no pirate, you know.

[The Avon Lady]

The new Faces of Jihad.

[sunvalleyslim]

Anteater,
I think you have learned a valuable lesson. PC or not, when you get the "feeling somethings not right", it usually isn't. Always go with what you feel.......
There's also a saying in America about your avatar.........."Are you a German Helmet or an Anteater?" No need to respond except if you understand the saying.........