OT: U.S. SUbmarine decoys

shoot-kill-win · 09-03-07, 10:44 PM

I posted this awhile back, but due to many sstill not believing that U.S. Subs had decoys I will repost.
I remember a while back people were saying that American subs did not have decoys, well that is just not true, after spending my summer volunteering at the U.S.S. Batfish I learned that American subs used alka seltzer and shot it out the signal flare ejectorin the aft torp. room, and they also used a fake periscope that was metal and it floated on the surface it was about 3 feet long and was fired the same way as the alka seltzers. The alka seltzer was meant to sound like a propeller swishing in the water, this is what is modeled in the game.

the first paragraph in this link lists the decoy capabilities: http://www.usscod.org/ator.html

chris455 · 09-03-07, 11:01 PM

Great find!
Did not hr Geramns also have a device ("Bold") that was similar?

Subnuts · 09-03-07, 11:26 PM

The site doesn't actually say when they actually started using those decoys, however.

bookworm_020 · 09-03-07, 11:52 PM

Some subs used home made decoys, by ejecting rubbish and odds and ends from a torpedo tube as well as some oil. This would give subs a chance to escape. There is at least one recorded instance of this happening. I can't give a name for the sub (the book that has it is in storage at the moment!

), but it was later sunk on a different mssion.

donut · 09-04-07, 12:05 AM

Unimplemented in game planed feature.

tossed!!

tater · 09-04-07, 12:05 AM

Dates I have seen have been very late 1944. November/December at the earliest.

kikn79 · 09-04-07, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by tater

Dates I have seen have been very late 1944. November/December at the earliest.

Correct.

Capt. Eugene Flukey had his own brand of decoys. On his second patrol, he asked for a empty milk can to be filled up with oil and thrown overboard to give the DD's something to depth charge. On his third patrol, he did something similar, except he fired it out one of the stern torpedo tubes.

Chuck

SteamWake · 09-04-07, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by donut

Unimplemented in game planed feature.

tossed!!

Does this mean that the button labeled "Launch decoys" actually does nothing ?

mookiemookie · 09-04-07, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteamWake

Quote:

Originally Posted by donut

Unimplemented in game planed feature.

tossed!!

Does this mean that the button labeled "Launch decoys" actually does nothing ?

He meant the dummy periscopes.

WilhelmSchulz. · 09-04-07, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by kikn79

Quote:

Originally Posted by tater

Dates I have seen have been very late 1944. November/December at the earliest.

Correct.

Capt. Eugene Flukey had his own brand of decoys. On his second patrol, he asked for a empty milk can to be filled up with oil and thrown overboard to give the DD's something to depth charge. On his third patrol, he did something similar, except he fired it out one of the stern torpedo tubes.

Chuck

And on his 5th patrol he actuly used bold style decoys.

09-03-07, 10:44 PM	#1
shoot-kill-win Medic Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 164 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	OT: U.S. SUbmarine decoys I posted this awhile back, but due to many sstill not believing that U.S. Subs had decoys I will repost. I remember a while back people were saying that American subs did not have decoys, well that is just not true, after spending my summer volunteering at the U.S.S. Batfish I learned that American subs used alka seltzer and shot it out the signal flare ejectorin the aft torp. room, and they also used a fake periscope that was metal and it floated on the surface it was about 3 feet long and was fired the same way as the alka seltzers. The alka seltzer was meant to sound like a propeller swishing in the water, this is what is modeled in the game. the first paragraph in this link lists the decoy capabilities: http://www.usscod.org/ator.html __________________ U.S.S. Batfish "The champion Submarine-killing sub of WWII" Official tonnage: 12,332 Sank 3 subs in 3 days

09-03-07, 11:52 PM	#4
bookworm_020 Navy Seal Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sinking ships off the Australian coast Posts: 5,966 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Some subs used home made decoys, by ejecting rubbish and odds and ends from a torpedo tube as well as some oil. This would give subs a chance to escape. There is at least one recorded instance of this happening. I can't give a name for the sub (the book that has it is in storage at the moment!), but it was later sunk on a different mssion. __________________ "There is always one person in any organization who knows whats going on, That person must be fired"

09-04-07, 12:05 AM	#5
donut The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: The Shifting, Whispering Sands, NM Posts: 1,463 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Periscope head decoy Unimplemented in game planed feature. tossed!!

09-03-07, 11:01 PM	#2
chris455 A-ganger Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 71 Downloads: 97 Uploads: 0	Great find! Did not hr Geramns also have a device ("Bold") that was similar?

09-03-07, 11:26 PM	#3
Subnuts The Old Man Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,658 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	The site doesn't actually say when they actually started using those decoys, however.

09-04-07, 12:05 AM	#6
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Dates I have seen have been very late 1944. November/December at the earliest.