Enemy ships in neutral ports - Page 2

bigboywooly · 08-28-07, 09:52 AM

There are no land units at Punto in GWX

The Br merc in Brunsbuettal was moved in 1.03 IIRC
Maybe 1.02

But not there any more either way

PhantomLord · 08-28-07, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bigboywooly

There are no land units at Punto in GWX

The Br merc in Brunsbuettal was moved in 1.03 IIRC
Maybe 1.02

But not there any more either way

Seems that the brit merchie doesn´t know my GWX version (it´s 1.03). I´ll send a letter to the royal navy about that.

Lafferty · 08-28-07, 04:44 PM

Yeah i've noticed a lot of Enemy Ships in Neutral Harbors. They don't give me a lot of trobule i just sink them once i enter the harbor.

Deep-Six · 08-28-07, 06:43 PM

Neutrals? What neutrals!!! Sink them all and let god sort it all out.

bigboywooly · 08-29-07, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by PhantomLord

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigboywooly

There are no land units at Punto in GWX

The Br merc in Brunsbuettal was moved in 1.03 IIRC
Maybe 1.02

But not there any more either way

Seems that the brit merchie doesn´t know my GWX version (it´s 1.03). I´ll send a letter to the royal navy about that.

Ah your right
My bad
Was moved in 1.04

Sailor Steve · 08-29-07, 11:17 AM

Here are the actual rules governing neutral ports for this time period:
http://fletcher.tufts.edu/multi/texts/BH044.txt

Art. 16. When war-ships belonging to both belligerents are present
simultaneously in a neutral port or roadstead, a period of not less than
twenty-four hours must elapse between the departure of the ship belonging
to one belligerent and the departure of the ship belonging to the other.

Of course the game doesn't take this into consideration. In the interest of playing realistically, I never go into neutral ports (except Vigo, of course).

desirableroasted · 08-30-07, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Here are the actual rules governing neutral ports for this time period:
http://fletcher.tufts.edu/multi/texts/BH044.txt

Art. 16. When war-ships belonging to both belligerents are present
simultaneously in a neutral port or roadstead, a period of not less than
twenty-four hours must elapse between the departure of the ship belonging
to one belligerent and the departure of the ship belonging to the other.

Of course the game doesn't take this into consideration. In the interest of playing realistically, I never go into neutral ports (except Vigo, of course).

Interesting document. Rules out neutral harbor raiding entirely, if you are playing "authentic."

Jimbuna · 08-30-07, 04:08 AM

The British used the '24 hour rule' on the Graff Spee in Montevideo to allow more naval assets to arrive in preparation for her eventual sailing

Sailor Steve · 08-30-07, 11:20 AM

Back in 1864, when the USS Kearsarge found CSS Alabama in port reprovisioning at Cherbourg, France, US captain Winslow was careful not to enter the port, choosing instead to wait outside for captain Semmes to bring his ship out. Had he entered the bay, Semmes could have brought Alabama out first and escaped while Kearsarge was forced to wait the 24 hours required by law.

It was that incident that I think of whenever neutral ports are mentioned.

desirableroasted · 08-30-07, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Back in 1864, when the USS Kearsarge found CSS Alabama in port reprovisioning at Cherbourg, France, US captain Winslow was careful not to enter the port, choosing instead to wait outside for captain Semmes to bring his ship out. Had he entered the bay, Semmes could have brought Alabama out first and escaped while Kearsarge was forced to wait the 24 hours required by law.

It was that incident that I think of whenever neutral ports are mentioned.

Here is a nice site with the commanders' correspondence.

Canovaro · 08-30-07, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by bigboywooly

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Originally Posted by PhantomLord

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigboywooly

There are no land units at Punto in GWX

The Br merc in Brunsbuettal was moved in 1.03 IIRC
Maybe 1.02

But not there any more either way

Seems that the brit merchie doesn´t know my GWX version (it´s 1.03). I´ll send a letter to the royal navy about that.

Ah your right
My bad
Was moved in 1.04

Good to hear that.

Jimbuna · 08-31-07, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by desirableroasted

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Back in 1864, when the USS Kearsarge found CSS Alabama in port reprovisioning at Cherbourg, France, US captain Winslow was careful not to enter the port, choosing instead to wait outside for captain Semmes to bring his ship out. Had he entered the bay, Semmes could have brought Alabama out first and escaped while Kearsarge was forced to wait the 24 hours required by law.

It was that incident that I think of whenever neutral ports are mentioned.

Here is a nice site with the commanders' correspondence.

Great site....thanks for sharing

Lafferty · 08-31-07, 07:19 AM

yes thanks for posting the site.

08-28-07, 09:52 AM	#16
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	There are no land units at Punto in GWX The Br merc in Brunsbuettal was moved in 1.03 IIRC Maybe 1.02 But not there any more either way __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

08-28-07, 06:43 PM	#19
Deep-Six Sonar Guy Join Date: May 2005 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 399 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Neutrals? What neutrals!!! Sink them all and let god sort it all out. __________________

08-29-07, 11:17 AM	#21
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Here are the actual rules governing neutral ports for this time period: http://fletcher.tufts.edu/multi/texts/BH044.txt Art. 16. When war-ships belonging to both belligerents are present simultaneously in a neutral port or roadstead, a period of not less than twenty-four hours must elapse between the departure of the ship belonging to one belligerent and the departure of the ship belonging to the other. Of course the game doesn't take this into consideration. In the interest of playing realistically, I never go into neutral ports (except Vigo, of course). __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

08-30-07, 04:08 AM	#23
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,788 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	The British used the '24 hour rule' on the Graff Spee in Montevideo to allow more naval assets to arrive in preparation for her eventual sailing __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

08-30-07, 11:20 AM	#24
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Back in 1864, when the USS Kearsarge found CSS Alabama in port reprovisioning at Cherbourg, France, US captain Winslow was careful not to enter the port, choosing instead to wait outside for captain Semmes to bring his ship out. Had he entered the bay, Semmes could have brought Alabama out first and escaped while Kearsarge was forced to wait the 24 hours required by law. It was that incident that I think of whenever neutral ports are mentioned. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

08-28-07, 04:44 PM	#18
Lafferty Officer Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Hot Springs Arkansas Posts: 245 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 0	Yeah i've noticed a lot of Enemy Ships in Neutral Harbors. They don't give me a lot of trobule i just sink them once i enter the harbor.

08-31-07, 07:19 AM	#28
Lafferty Officer Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Hot Springs Arkansas Posts: 245 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 0	yes thanks for posting the site.