100th F-22 Raptor delivered to U.S. Air Force

SUBMAN1 · 08-30-07, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Letum

Im suprised there isn't a remotely piloted rocket aircraft.
A little like a remotely piloted tomahawk missile with survelance equipment and missiles attached. :hmm:
~200mph is very, very slow.

200 MPH is actually very fast for an aircraft designed to loiter.

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

At 220mph it could be an easy target if up against anyone with shoulder launched Stingers for example :hmm:

That is a big no. The problem being that no one knows you are there - it flies outside of stinger range at 10K feet, and no noise transfers to the ground from the alt. Couple this with the fact that it is near impossible to spot from the alt, and I think one would be hard pressed to ever know it was there.

Jimbuna · 08-30-07, 09:33 AM

Fair enough.......but an enemy with radar and more sophisticated SAM weaponry, not to mention signal jamming capabilities would probably have more success aginst it ? :hmm:
Don't get me wrong here....I'm just playing devils advocate

SUBMAN1 · 08-30-07, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

Fair enough.......but an enemy with radar and more sophisticated SAM weaponry, not to mention signal jamming capabilities would probably have more success aginst it ? :hmm:
Don't get me wrong here....I'm just playing devils advocate

I'm sure. But then again, Saddam couldn't shoot them down much either. I have a video feed on one being fired on - and the missile missed.

-S

SUBMAN1 · 08-30-07, 10:21 AM

Here we go - Iraqi terrorists fire 4 Sams at predator - all miss. 5th also misses. Predator doesn't miss.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6b5_1183143383

-S

Jimbuna · 08-30-07, 11:36 AM

Poetic justice

....you can run but you can't hide

Letum · 08-30-07, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

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Originally Posted by Letum

~200mph is very, very slow.

200 MPH is actually very fast for an aircraft designed to loiter.

Prahaps, but planes where doing 200mph back in the 1920s!

SUBMAN1 · 08-30-07, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Letum

Prahaps, but planes where doing 200mph back in the 1920s!

I hear ya - but those planes weren't designed to loiter. Most were point A to B or racing versions. This tiny predator stays up there for 8 hours straight! The monster GLobal Hawk can stay on station for 24 hours - not including transit time.

-S

geetrue · 08-30-07, 12:23 PM

They might have a hard time of shooting down a little drone right now ...

but in just ten more years and a whole lot of money (is 5 billion dollars from heron trade enough?) they could shoot down a whole satellite.

All they have to do is take out one with a mobile launcher and run.

You can see a satellite with the naked eye ... what can modern electronics do?

Does that sound too James Bondish?

08-30-07, 09:33 AM	#2
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,678 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Fair enough.......but an enemy with radar and more sophisticated SAM weaponry, not to mention signal jamming capabilities would probably have more success aginst it ? :hmm: Don't get me wrong here....I'm just playing devils advocate __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

08-30-07, 10:21 AM	#4
SUBMAN1 Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11,866 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Here we go - Iraqi terrorists fire 4 Sams at predator - all miss. 5th also misses. Predator doesn't miss. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6b5_1183143383 -S __________________

08-30-07, 11:36 AM	#5
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,678 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Poetic justice ....you can run but you can't hide __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

08-30-07, 12:23 PM	#8
geetrue Cold War Boomer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Walla Walla Posts: 2,837 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	They might have a hard time of shooting down a little drone right now ... but in just ten more years and a whole lot of money (is 5 billion dollars from heron trade enough?) they could shoot down a whole satellite. All they have to do is take out one with a mobile launcher and run. You can see a satellite with the naked eye ... what can modern electronics do? Does that sound too James Bondish? __________________