[TEC] Ship skinning...

tater · 08-24-07, 08:20 AM

It looks to be pretty much impossible to do, sadly. The nagara's hull texture also forms her decks, and all the 1/2 walls along the side of the superstructure as well as the masts. It would be totally impossible, for example, to give her a black hull, because the rest of the ship (superstructure) becomes maybe 2/3 black when you do.

tater

FooFighters · 08-24-07, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by tater

It looks to be pretty much impossible to do, sadly. The nagara's hull texture also forms her decks, and all the 1/2 walls along the side of the superstructure as well as the masts. It would be totally impossible, for example, to give her a black hull, because the rest of the ship (superstructure) becomes maybe 2/3 black when you do.

tater

I 100% agree, but it would be great to see combat and merchants without all the rust.
The aircraft carriers looks like it's been underwater for 50 years.

SlimDuce · 08-24-07, 09:08 AM

I couldnt agree more!!! The stocks ships are modeled great but the skins are just awful.

tater · 08-24-07, 09:52 AM

It's not just that they LOOK awful, the merchant skin I looked at was so horribly organized that reskinning Nagara is impossible.

I guess I need to look at others.

I wanted to try my hand at skinning, but unlike any aircraft I've messed with to skin (Il-2) they used the same texture for so much of the ship... ugh.

tater

tater · 08-24-07, 01:32 PM

Am I right in thinking that with such nightmarish, awful skin templates the only way to do this will be to export the model, and rebuild it with a proper texture map?

tater

tater · 08-24-07, 03:26 PM

Some are easier than others, Mwhahaha.

tater

tater · 08-25-07, 01:01 PM

There is the T file, and then there is the O file.

The O file seems to have shapes to represent the various hull areas to be skinned on it, but it's largely transparent. Oddly, some of it lines up with the T layer, while other areas clearly cannot since they cross things.

Anyway, if you look at Mutsuki (or Fubuki, can't recall) the hulls are plain, yet in game they have dazzle paint. Turns out that's on the O layer... The merchants have very much more complicated O layers and I don't see anything like the hull.

Clearly I can just work on the T at some level, but they use blocks over and over instead of having a good separation of areas.

tater

08-24-07, 08:20 AM	#1
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	It looks to be pretty much impossible to do, sadly. The nagara's hull texture also forms her decks, and all the 1/2 walls along the side of the superstructure as well as the masts. It would be totally impossible, for example, to give her a black hull, because the rest of the ship (superstructure) becomes maybe 2/3 black when you do. tater

08-24-07, 09:08 AM	#3
SlimDuce Watch Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I couldnt agree more!!! The stocks ships are modeled great but the skins are just awful.

08-24-07, 09:52 AM	#4
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	It's not just that they LOOK awful, the merchant skin I looked at was so horribly organized that reskinning Nagara is impossible. I guess I need to look at others. I wanted to try my hand at skinning, but unlike any aircraft I've messed with to skin (Il-2) they used the same texture for so much of the ship... ugh. tater

08-24-07, 01:32 PM	#5
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Am I right in thinking that with such nightmarish, awful skin templates the only way to do this will be to export the model, and rebuild it with a proper texture map? tater

08-24-07, 03:26 PM	#6
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Some are easier than others, Mwhahaha. tater

08-25-07, 01:01 PM	#7
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	There is the T file, and then there is the O file. The O file seems to have shapes to represent the various hull areas to be skinned on it, but it's largely transparent. Oddly, some of it lines up with the T layer, while other areas clearly cannot since they cross things. Anyway, if you look at Mutsuki (or Fubuki, can't recall) the hulls are plain, yet in game they have dazzle paint. Turns out that's on the O layer... The merchants have very much more complicated O layers and I don't see anything like the hull. Clearly I can just work on the T at some level, but they use blocks over and over instead of having a good separation of areas. tater