[REL] Living breathing Ocean - Page 19

leovampire · 08-18-07, 10:33 PM

the game gets caught in a loop with the sea and wind states a little bit as it is changing and sometimes the ocean will run backwards. To fix this change the sea speed to 0.55 for all 4 wave states so they are even. The game dosn't like having them differn't anymore since I can now set the wind speed for each individual wave state. So all sea speeds need to be the same now to stablize all 4 ocean wave sates.

leovampire · 08-19-07, 07:26 PM

this is to show what combining the new Kriller2 graffics looks like with the new LBO work being tested now. this is 6 meters per second winds and at 9:00 a.m.

And BTW I forgot to mention that the sub you see is one that Lagger made for me per a request I made in the Airbase
Nav mod vs4 I made. It is a Sargo class sub USS Sea Dragon it has the emblem for it on the conning tower.

Weather-guesser · 08-19-07, 08:49 PM

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BTW someone asked about a sound effect from SHIII with the extra crash sound other than the normal cutting through the ocean sound. Well it comes into play now as you crash through the waves but not often enough so I found a setting for height vs sounds and as soon as i figure out which one is the right one I will adjust it to happen more often in the high sea's.

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Not a big gripe but since I put in that outstanding Living Breathing Ocean MOD by leovampire, I realize one big thing I miss from SH3....the big whoosh sound from the bow of the sub going in and out of the water when pitching in heavy seas.

Outstanding LV! I brought this up in another thread along with the interior damage sounds not working. I missed the swishhh sound from SH3 as your sub cuts through the water. Thnk you soo much!

leovampire · 08-19-07, 09:23 PM

noticed and heard and didn't notice or hear for the rework of LBO to try and satisfy everyone as much as possable in the ocean effects. What good is a mod on one epecific area of the game play if you can't come close to meeting expectations. So I tryed my best to meet everyone's needs and wants without screwing up the base effect's and just make the over all impact of the ocean rework better in experience.

I may not reply to every post that someone has made in here but on all the one's that ask for something I make a note of it on a piece of paper and see what I can do to create the effect or enhance or make go away what ever significant thing is asked or noticed.

For example one guy had asked for calmer sea's in the low wind states well here is the ocean at 0mps but what I did do is using the new S3D tool that Skwasjer created I adjusted in the materials file the wake effect for everything to have a little more impact on the ocean both above and below to create more of a extended ripple effect and wave creation and here is an example.

then adjusted the physics to give the waves more density in each ripple so you get differn't colors in the ripples.
These are probably things most people would never notice so that is why I am pointing it out so you would know
what I have done as far as fine tunning goes to make this mod much better in the new release over the first release.

leovampire · 08-20-07, 01:10 AM

Captain Cox worked on the funnel smoke for the ships and I ajusted them to blow in the wind and move more with the ships direction. This is a 0 MPS wind and wave shot.

And here is also an example on how much higher the sea's get for 15mps winds.

chopped50ford · 08-20-07, 02:42 AM

thanks for the update...and once again...Great work.

leovampire · 08-20-07, 03:09 AM

Ducimus
Captain Cox
Redwine
Bando
Reallydedpoet
Kapitan_Zur_See
Kriller2
AkbarGulag
Jaketoox
Digital_Trucker
Seeadler

As soon as they say it is good to go I will release the new VS of LBO.

BTW guys thanks so much for the help and being up front and honest with me
on all aspects of the new work and what needed extra work and for noticing the little extra's here and there. And sorry Jake didn't mean to miss spell your name!

And I posted your names guys to put you on the spot with me for all the questions on when it will be done LOL! Now you have the pressure not me LOL!!!

leovampire · 08-20-07, 07:09 AM

so reduce the horizon value in the scene.dat file using the new mini tweeker scene file down to 6000.

Second you can put the sea speed at: 0.52 for wave state 1
0.53 for wave state 2
0.54 for wave state 3
0.55 for wave state 4

I found out the slight changes is acceptable and the game dosn't reject it and start acting funny. It is the larger changes that seems to make a difference.

That should take care of the rest of the issues you guys have noticed and mentioned.

WilhelmTell · 08-20-07, 07:54 AM

Really nice work so far. Look forward for the upcoming release.
One thing though: Do you incorporate my smoke mod as well or will there be different versions of LBO ? I am refering to our P.M. a week ago.

leovampire · 08-20-07, 08:17 AM

I am going to combine the 2 to get the best out of both and give you both credit.

As for the stand alone vs of LBO there is no need for the particles file. But to add the lightning effects the particles file and materials file are an absolute must. But seeing the work on the lightning isn't finished yet I am not going to worry about it just yet WilhelmTell.

Just the materials file will be used in the download vs of LBO because of the ship and sub wake work and that has nothing to do with the smoke effects.

So when the lightning is done then it will be included with that. I will show you the end results and Captain Cox as well and make sure you both are cool with it before it is all released. Is that okay with you?

WilhelmTell · 08-20-07, 08:50 AM

That's absolutely okay with me.

I just asked because you didn't mention new smoke effects apart from funnel smoke.
As I like to have some nice smoke + realistic water behaviour + beautiful environment colors + astonishing lightning effects in my game, I just wanted to know if I have to merge the particular particles.dat's for my own, which means quite some work again.
Therefore I would be pleased as well as honored of course, if you implement needed parts of my smoke mod.

Seeadler · 08-20-07, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by leovampire

so reduce the horizon value in the scene.dat file using the new mini tweeker scene file down to 6000.

be careful when reducing the horizon value, this value has influence on the rendering of the fog 3D model in the scene.dat. A low value blend out the sun and moon object from the scene

leovampire · 08-20-07, 10:10 AM

I never looked into that part of it just for the ocean trying to get the waves to show up further away from the sub. But I did notice it made a bit of a difference in the storms. The problem some of my testers noticed is that you could spot ships on the horizon further than the sub's own sensors could pick them up. And you could see smoke from over 25km away from the camera possition

Seeadler · 08-20-07, 11:43 AM

Horizon: ZMax below 1000

Horizon: ZMax below 500

It depends also on the Skyobject radius

Illustration of the 3D models in the scene.dat

leovampire · 08-20-07, 12:50 PM

and I know it was set at 3000 for the 9km visability mod now I down sized the sun and moon evenly in the scene dat but only slightly and now that I look at it I can see the difference on when they fade vs how bright they are using the horizon setting so I understand now. Okay I will leave that all up to you seedler to find the right setting for that. Another words my hands are now off of that one LOL!!!

08-18-07, 10:33 PM	#271
leovampire Eternal Patrol Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Waterbury, CT. USA Posts: 2,336 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	okay to all my testers just noticed a slight problem the game gets caught in a loop with the sea and wind states a little bit as it is changing and sometimes the ocean will run backwards. To fix this change the sea speed to 0.55 for all 4 wave states so they are even. The game dosn't like having them differn't anymore since I can now set the wind speed for each individual wave state. So all sea speeds need to be the same now to stablize all 4 ocean wave sates. __________________ AIR_BASE_NAV_MAP_MOD Reflections_on_the_Water

08-19-07, 07:26 PM	#272
leovampire Eternal Patrol Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Waterbury, CT. USA Posts: 2,336 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	okay this was taken off the Northern Coast of Luzon this is to show what combining the new Kriller2 graffics looks like with the new LBO work being tested now. this is 6 meters per second winds and at 9:00 a.m. And BTW I forgot to mention that the sub you see is one that Lagger made for me per a request I made in the Airbase Nav mod vs4 I made. It is a Sargo class sub USS Sea Dragon it has the emblem for it on the conning tower. __________________ AIR_BASE_NAV_MAP_MOD Reflections_on_the_Water Last edited by leovampire; 08-19-07 at 07:42 PM.

08-19-07, 09:23 PM	#274
leovampire Eternal Patrol Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Waterbury, CT. USA Posts: 2,336 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	like I said I was trying to address everything everyone noticed and heard and didn't notice or hear for the rework of LBO to try and satisfy everyone as much as possable in the ocean effects. What good is a mod on one epecific area of the game play if you can't come close to meeting expectations. So I tryed my best to meet everyone's needs and wants without screwing up the base effect's and just make the over all impact of the ocean rework better in experience. I may not reply to every post that someone has made in here but on all the one's that ask for something I make a note of it on a piece of paper and see what I can do to create the effect or enhance or make go away what ever significant thing is asked or noticed. For example one guy had asked for calmer sea's in the low wind states well here is the ocean at 0mps but what I did do is using the new S3D tool that Skwasjer created I adjusted in the materials file the wake effect for everything to have a little more impact on the ocean both above and below to create more of a extended ripple effect and wave creation and here is an example. then adjusted the physics to give the waves more density in each ripple so you get differn't colors in the ripples. These are probably things most people would never notice so that is why I am pointing it out so you would know what I have done as far as fine tunning goes to make this mod much better in the new release over the first release. __________________ AIR_BASE_NAV_MAP_MOD Reflections_on_the_Water Last edited by leovampire; 08-20-07 at 12:22 AM.

08-20-07, 01:10 AM	#275
leovampire Eternal Patrol Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Waterbury, CT. USA Posts: 2,336 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	this will be included as well in the downloads Captain Cox worked on the funnel smoke for the ships and I ajusted them to blow in the wind and move more with the ships direction. This is a 0 MPS wind and wave shot. And here is also an example on how much higher the sea's get for 15mps winds. __________________ AIR_BASE_NAV_MAP_MOD Reflections_on_the_Water Last edited by leovampire; 08-20-07 at 03:43 AM.

08-20-07, 02:42 AM	#276
chopped50ford Weps Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bentonville, AR Posts: 367 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	thanks for the update...and once again...Great work. __________________ TM2(SS) USS Asheville - Plankowner, Shellback, "Order of the Ditch" http://ths-i.com/

08-20-07, 03:09 AM	#277
leovampire Eternal Patrol Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Waterbury, CT. USA Posts: 2,336 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	okay all my testers for the new LBO work are: Ducimus Captain Cox Redwine Bando Reallydedpoet Kapitan_Zur_See Kriller2 AkbarGulag Jaketoox Digital_Trucker Seeadler As soon as they say it is good to go I will release the new VS of LBO. BTW guys thanks so much for the help and being up front and honest with me on all aspects of the new work and what needed extra work and for noticing the little extra's here and there. And sorry Jake didn't mean to miss spell your name! And I posted your names guys to put you on the spot with me for all the questions on when it will be done LOL! Now you have the pressure not me LOL!!! __________________ AIR_BASE_NAV_MAP_MOD Reflections_on_the_Water Last edited by leovampire; 08-20-07 at 01:22 PM.

08-20-07, 07:09 AM	#278
leovampire Eternal Patrol Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Waterbury, CT. USA Posts: 2,336 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	okay testers 3 people have said something about horizon problems so reduce the horizon value in the scene.dat file using the new mini tweeker scene file down to 6000. Second you can put the sea speed at: 0.52 for wave state 1 0.53 for wave state 2 0.54 for wave state 3 0.55 for wave state 4 I found out the slight changes is acceptable and the game dosn't reject it and start acting funny. It is the larger changes that seems to make a difference. That should take care of the rest of the issues you guys have noticed and mentioned. __________________ AIR_BASE_NAV_MAP_MOD Reflections_on_the_Water

08-20-07, 07:54 AM	#279
WilhelmTell Engineer Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Berlin, Germany, Europe Posts: 205 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Really nice work so far. Look forward for the upcoming release. One thing though: Do you incorporate my smoke mod as well or will there be different versions of LBO ? I am refering to our P.M. a week ago. __________________ Regards, Tell

08-20-07, 08:17 AM	#280
leovampire Eternal Patrol Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Waterbury, CT. USA Posts: 2,336 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	seeing both your stuff and Captain Cox's work in the same area WilhelmTell I am going to combine the 2 to get the best out of both and give you both credit. As for the stand alone vs of LBO there is no need for the particles file. But to add the lightning effects the particles file and materials file are an absolute must. But seeing the work on the lightning isn't finished yet I am not going to worry about it just yet WilhelmTell. Just the materials file will be used in the download vs of LBO because of the ship and sub wake work and that has nothing to do with the smoke effects. So when the lightning is done then it will be included with that. I will show you the end results and Captain Cox as well and make sure you both are cool with it before it is all released. Is that okay with you? __________________ AIR_BASE_NAV_MAP_MOD Reflections_on_the_Water

08-20-07, 08:50 AM	#281
WilhelmTell Engineer Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Berlin, Germany, Europe Posts: 205 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	That's absolutely okay with me. I just asked because you didn't mention new smoke effects apart from funnel smoke. As I like to have some nice smoke + realistic water behaviour + beautiful environment colors + astonishing lightning effects in my game, I just wanted to know if I have to merge the particular particles.dat's for my own, which means quite some work again. Therefore I would be pleased as well as honored of course, if you implement needed parts of my smoke mod. __________________ Regards, Tell

08-20-07, 10:10 AM	#283
leovampire Eternal Patrol Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Waterbury, CT. USA Posts: 2,336 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh didn't know that Seeadler I never looked into that part of it just for the ocean trying to get the waves to show up further away from the sub. But I did notice it made a bit of a difference in the storms. The problem some of my testers noticed is that you could spot ships on the horizon further than the sub's own sensors could pick them up. And you could see smoke from over 25km away from the camera possition __________________ AIR_BASE_NAV_MAP_MOD Reflections_on_the_Water

08-20-07, 11:43 AM	#284
Seeadler Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Northern Germany Posts: 1,096 Downloads: 169 Uploads: 0	Horizon: ZMax below 1000 Horizon: ZMax below 500 It depends also on the Skyobject radius Illustration of the 3D models in the scene.dat __________________ -- Vapor-ware is always easier to sell because there's no limit what it can do!

08-20-07, 12:50 PM	#285
leovampire Eternal Patrol Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Waterbury, CT. USA Posts: 2,336 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I beleve the original base value was 1000 for it and I know it was set at 3000 for the 9km visability mod now I down sized the sun and moon evenly in the scene dat but only slightly and now that I look at it I can see the difference on when they fade vs how bright they are using the horizon setting so I understand now. Okay I will leave that all up to you seedler to find the right setting for that. Another words my hands are now off of that one LOL!!! __________________ AIR_BASE_NAV_MAP_MOD Reflections_on_the_Water