A scenario

Kaleu. Jochen Mohr · 08-18-07, 06:27 AM

its a captains duty to go off the ship as last person. this includes the dead.
so practicaly the captain go's down with the ship.

Oberon · 08-18-07, 06:47 AM

I'd be the last person off, I wouldn't go down with the ship, I want to swim over and sort that blind tanker captain out, has he never heard of things called radio, radar or GPS?

Also, I'd transfer the passengers to the tanker, chances are she's weathered the collision better than my ship, and she has a responsibility to aid me.

Linton · 08-18-07, 08:20 AM

A captain's responsibility is to his passengers and their survival.This of course also means the phase after the evacuation.I would make sure the ship is clear and then evacuate with a copy of my navigation chart to enable me to have the Tanker captain prosecuted for negligence!

fatty · 08-18-07, 09:01 AM

I would send out the may day (urgent) once the list has developed - list means taking on water or your bouyancy is otherwise compromised. 2,000 people aren't worth screwing around to see if it works itself out.

I wouldn't order abandon ship yet, but I would order everyone into life jackets and survival gear and to stand by life boats. Hopefully after two hours another ship will be on station to take on the passangers, but once it becomes obvious that she's going down, we must abandon.

I'd be the last man off but not go down, that's just silly and fantastical.

STEED · 08-18-07, 09:02 AM

Interesting question this, its like a fighter pilot whose plane is out of control and 9 times out of 10 he will go down with his plane a try to control the crash in a populated area.

Back to the question the captain of a sinking ship has to coordinate the evacuation and in sure he is the last off the boat. Of course he will have to take in to account the weather conditions where they are how fast is the ship sinking and so on and hopefully plan out his actions as best as he can. Even the life of the captain is not worth throwing away on a ship and why should he, human life out ways metal and money.

Prof · 08-18-07, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaleu. Jochen Mohr

its a captains duty to go off the ship as last person. this includes the dead.
so practicaly the captain go's down with the ship.

Could I ask why you believe that the captain must sacrifice his own life to fulfill his 'duty' to the dead?

In my opinion the captain should stay on board the ship as long as possible in order to coordinate the evacuation. This obviously puts his life in danger compared to getting off as soon as possible. However, once it's clear that the orderly evacuation is at an end (i.e. the ship is actually going under), there is no advantage to be gained by staying with the ship and the captain should leave if possible.

In the situation described by Kapitan, I would say that any collision involving passenger-carrying vessels is life-threatening so the first thing I would do is to send out mayday signals and have people assemble at the life-boat stations. If your list is 12 degrees and getting worse, you don't want to be hanging around to see what develops.

View Poll Results: Would you go down with the ship
Yes as master of the ship its my duty to sail her to the last	5	15.15%
No she is not worth more lives and definatly not worth mine	26	78.79%
I dont know as i would not like to be in that situation	2	6.06%
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08-18-07, 06:27 AM	#1
Kaleu. Jochen Mohr Ocean Warrior Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: in my sub Posts: 2,741 Downloads: 47 Uploads: 0	its a captains duty to go off the ship as last person. this includes the dead. so practicaly the captain go's down with the ship. __________________ Gruß

08-18-07, 08:20 AM	#3
Linton Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,898 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	A captain's responsibility is to his passengers and their survival.This of course also means the phase after the evacuation.I would make sure the ship is clear and then evacuate with a copy of my navigation chart to enable me to have the Tanker captain prosecuted for negligence! __________________ http://lintonsview.blogspot.com/

08-18-07, 09:02 AM	#5
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Interesting question this, its like a fighter pilot whose plane is out of control and 9 times out of 10 he will go down with his plane a try to control the crash in a populated area. Back to the question the captain of a sinking ship has to coordinate the evacuation and in sure he is the last off the boat. Of course he will have to take in to account the weather conditions where they are how fast is the ship sinking and so on and hopefully plan out his actions as best as he can. Even the life of the captain is not worth throwing away on a ship and why should he, human life out ways metal and money. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

08-18-07, 06:47 AM	#2
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	I'd be the last person off, I wouldn't go down with the ship, I want to swim over and sort that blind tanker captain out, has he never heard of things called radio, radar or GPS? Also, I'd transfer the passengers to the tanker, chances are she's weathered the collision better than my ship, and she has a responsibility to aid me.

08-18-07, 09:01 AM	#4
fatty The Old Man Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 1,448 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I would send out the may day (urgent) once the list has developed - list means taking on water or your bouyancy is otherwise compromised. 2,000 people aren't worth screwing around to see if it works itself out. I wouldn't order abandon ship yet, but I would order everyone into life jackets and survival gear and to stand by life boats. Hopefully after two hours another ship will be on station to take on the passangers, but once it becomes obvious that she's going down, we must abandon. I'd be the last man off but not go down, that's just silly and fantastical.